Appalled!

[steevie]

What is unpleasant? You think Jade is doing a good thing by whoring herself out to the media every given chance. I personally think its in bad taste.

What is unpleasant there?

Those are the facts. I have my arguments why I think it's wrong, your argument seems to be she is dying so have some respect.

Incorrect Ghost. I have never once stated you should respect her but on the same token, to disrespect any dying person is quite simply wrong, you know it, i know it, we all know it deep down. What you will find i said was to leave the girl alone in her last few living months. The top and bottom of it all is that she is making sure her children have secure futures. Goody is not cashing in for her own benefit now is she? Jade wont even be alive long enough to spend the money the press are throwing at her. Just one question Ghost that is slightly off topic. Was you saddened when George Best passed away??

 

[Seamus Colemole]

Hate is a strong word mate, I don't hate it, I don't like her either, but then unlike many people in this country, I am not hypocritical over it.

But I don't like the PR whoring that is going on, and it is going on mate. I have worked in the industry, both at newspaper level and PR, I know what is done to sell papers. She and her PR agent are engineering stories to make more money. That is really in bad taste, and it is that that I dislike.

But then to you use Wendy Richards, is just wrong.

That is a good point too. Still hate the girl and everything she stand's for.

So how exactly do you know its Jade Goody and her pr people responsible for her coverage in certain papers and not the papers themselves?

Papers print the stories they wanna print, i can't see how Jade Goody forced the Daily Mirror to print the story about Wendy Richards phoning her, i can't see how thats her fault.

I see thats its a 2 way street and that yes Jade does have pr who try to keep her in the public eye even while she is dying. But i don't think she is capable of going out and getting a nice bar job to supplement her income is she. I fully support anyone who can use the gutter press and make money from them for their children in the process. And if that means you have to see a few headlines about her on your way to buying the Independant then so be it.

You might not like it but you don't know the full story and i don't understand how you get so worked up about the whole situation, especially when you vent your fury mainly at her when its the press who are the lowlife scum here, not Jade Goody.

Vent your fury at them, its them who choose what stories to run on the front of their papers everyday. Its the media who are responsible in the main for the Jade Goody media circus.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

Incorrect Ghost. I have never once stated you should respect her but to disrespect any dying person is quite simply wrong. What you will find i said was to leave the girl alone in her last few living months. The top and bottom of it all is that she is making sure her children have secure futures. Goody is not cashing in for her own benefit now is she? Jade wont even be alive long enough to spend the money the press are throwing at her. Just one question Ghost that is slightly off topic. Was you saddened when George Best passed away??

Leave her alone? In Peace? Your joking me! She clearly wants the attention.

Her children have secure futures already, she doesn't need to be doing this now.

Plus has she not heard of life insurance?

George Best? Was I saddened when he died? I felt sad yes. For the footballer, but he died years before the man died. He wasted a liver that could have gone to someone else who deserved it more, so for that I am not sad he died.

But it's like asking about Gazza, he died as the person I remembered him years ago.

They also both had talent, Jade has none at all.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

So how exactly do you know its Jade Goody and her pr people responsible for her coverage in certain papers and not the papers themselves?

Papers print the stories they wanna print, i can't see how Jade Goody forced the Daily Mirror to print the story about Wendy Richards phoning her, i can't see how thats her fault.

I see thats its a 2 way street and that yes Jade does have pr who try to keep her in the public eye even while she is dying. But i don't think she is capable of going out and getting a nice bar job to supplement her income is she. I fully support anyone who can use the gutter press and make money from them for their children in the process. And if that means you have to see a few headlines about her on your way to buying the Independant then so be it.

PR people, especially one's like Max Clifford work with supposed stars and newspapers. They provide the newspapers with stories. The Mirror, Jade and Clifford are all working together, trust me, I have been there first hand with Media and PR, I know how it all works.

 

[steevie]

Leave her alone? In Peace? Your joking me! She clearly wants the attention.

Her children have secure futures already, she doesn't need to be doing this now.

Plus has she not heard of life insurance?

George Best? Was I saddened when he died? I felt sad yes. For the footballer, but he died years before the man died. He wasted a liver that could have gone to someone else who deserved it more, so for that I am not sad he died.

But it's like asking about Gazza, he died as the person I remembered him years ago.

They also both had talent, Jade has none at all.

So Jade has no talent, no intelligence, is that what your saying?? So she is thick, why should we feel sorry for thick people? She has made more money than me and you put together no doubt, who is the talented one now then??

 

[parkendmaster]

So Jade has no talent, no intelligence, is that what your saying?? So she is thick, why should we feel sorry for thick people? She has made more money than me and you put together no doubt, who is the talented one now then??

She hasn't shown one ounce of talent in her time as a celebrity. It's good she's trying to provide for her family and the sad fact is once she passes on, the media will soon forget about her. They aren't helping her and the constant coverage is disrespectful to others who are terminally ill imo.

 

[Seamus Colemole]

PR people, especially one's like Max Clifford work with supposed stars and newspapers. They provide the newspapers with stories. The Mirror, Jade and Clifford are all working together, trust me, I have been there first hand with Media and PR, I know how it all works.

But at which point is Jade Goody repsonsible for what the papers actually print? Does she force them to give multi page coverage to her life every day?

Sure she could refuse all co-operation with them but then i'm sure we would see a slander campaign way worse than after her BB incident.

This way she gets positive coverage and money for her children, the papers get to make their money off her death and some people get annoyed when they see the coverage.

I just don't think its worth getting worked up about, although yes i agree that the coverage is overkill and disgusting but any fury should be directed to the press themselves not her. I felt the same when she was alive and healthy and people seemed to have so much anger and hatred for her.

If it annoys you then ignore it, its easily done if you really want to and saves you a lot of annoyance.

 

[steevie]

She hasn't shown one ounce of talent in her time as a celebrity. It's good she's trying to provide for her family and the sad fact is once she passes on, the media will soon forget about her. They aren't helping her and the constant coverage is disrespectful to others who are terminally ill imo.

Then surely that is the media's fault and not Jade Goody. I said it before and i will repeat it. If someone was to offer vast amounts of money to you, would you turn them down?? Of course you would'nt.

 

[parkendmaster]

Then surely that is the media's fault and not Jade Goody. I said it before and i will repeat it. If someone was to offer vast amounts of money to you, would you turn them down?? Of course you would'nt.

I agree, but at the same time I don't see why the media are following her around and though it's difficult for her to stop, she isn't exactly shining herself in a good light imo. She doesn't exactly need the money desprately. Others do and I would gain so much more respect for her if she made a big donation to a cancer charity before she passes.

 

[steevie]

I agree, but at the same time I don't see why the media are following her around and though it's difficult for her to stop, she isn't exactly shining herself in a good light imo. She doesn't exactly need the money desprately. Others do and I would gain so much more respect for her if she made a big donation to a cancer charity before she passes.

Lets face it mate, she was'nt glorified before she was diagnosed with cancer so why end your life on a pretence? She was wrongly labeled a racist in the Big Brother House and has continued to be ridiculed by many over the last few years. She is currently writing out a will and i have no doubts that part of that will, will include a large donation to Cancer Research etc. She is percieved to be monster like yet she has caused as much harm to society as we have.

 

[parkendmaster]

Lets face it mate, she was'nt glorified before she was diagnosed with cancer so why end your life on a pretence? She was wrongly labeled a racist in the Big Brother House and has continued to be ridiculed by many over the last few years. She is currently writing out a will and i have no doubts that part of that will, will include a large donation to Cancer Research etc. She is percieved to be monster like yet she has caused as much harm to society as we have.

I really hope that is true, but i still don't hink she should be having all this coverage and that the media should leave her in peace now, however I still don't like seeing her on the fron of every tabloid it's becoming tedious imo.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

But at which point is Jade Goody repsonsible for what the papers actually print? Does she force them to give multi page coverage to her life every day?

Sure she could refuse all co-operation with them but then i'm sure we would see a slander campaign way worse than after her BB incident.

This way she gets positive coverage and money for her children, the papers get to make their money off her death and some people get annoyed when they see the coverage.

I just don't think its worth getting worked up about, although yes i agree that the coverage is overkill and disgusting but any fury should be directed to the press themselves not her. I felt the same when she was alive and healthy and people seemed to have so much anger and hatred for her.

If it annoys you then ignore it, its easily done if you really want to and saves you a lot of annoyance.

PR people like Max Clifford dictate what goes in papers, he supplies the stories for the Mirror. Why? Because he knows what the jeremy kyle, chav population want. So the Mirror trust his judgement, and he supplies them with the stories. Jade Goody instructs her PR employee to go out and publically relate her, in other words, get her in the papers. Understand???

 

[TsarDiniyar]

Just entered this thread and thought i'd put my tuppence worth into this debate.

Incorrect Ghost. I have never once stated you should respect her but on the same token, to disrespect any dying person is quite simply wrong, you know it, i know it, we all know it deep down. What you will find i said was to leave the girl alone in her last few living months. The top and bottom of it all is that she is making sure her children have secure futures

First of all, if you cant stand someone, and then they get told they're going to die, changing your opinion of the person is wrong and hypocritical, whether they're dying or not. You dont respect someone because they're dying.

Ian Brady is on the verge of death, his vulgarity is on a much higher scale i know, but should we respect him? Think about it.

Goody is not cashing in for her own benefit now is she? Jade wont even be alive long enough to spend the money the press are throwing at her

Not cashing in for herself? She's earned more than enough money already to see 2 maybe 3 generations of her family through. So she doesn't need to be earning all this money from all these pathetic headline stories in the papers.

She is USING HER DISEASE to earn this money, if she doesn't give every last penny to Cancer research to try and prevent others from going down the same route, she deserves no respect whatsoever.

So how exactly do you know its Jade Goody and her pr people responsible for her coverage in certain papers and not the papers themselves?

Jade Goody is all over the OK magazine for her wedding. Her face is on the front of the paper, smiling straight into the camera, every day, if she's not posing for the media, what the hell is she doing?


If i could give ghost a green dot for every post in this thread I would, because he's got it nailed perfectly and hasnt been distasteful once.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

Just entered this thread and thought i'd put my tuppence worth into this debate.
First of all, if you cant stand someone, and then they get told they're going to die, changing your opinion of the person is wrong and hypocritical, whether they're dying or not. You dont respect someone because they're dying.

Ian Brady is on the verge of death, his vulgarity is on a much higher scale i know, but should we respect him? Think about it.



Not cashing in for herself? She's earned more than enough money already to see 2 maybe 3 generations of her family through. So she doesn't need to be earning all this money from all these pathetic headline stories in the papers.

She is USING HER DISEASE to earn this money, if she doesn't give every last penny to Cancer research to try and prevent others from going down the same route, she deserves no respect whatsoever.



Jade Goody is all over the OK magazine for her wedding. Her face is on the front of the paper, smiling straight into the camera, every day, if she's not posing for the media, what the hell is she doing?


If i could give ghost a green dot for every post in this thread I would, because he's got it nailed perfectly and hasnt been distasteful once.

Thanks mate. Appreciate the support here. But I'm afraid your flogging a dead horse. The Jade Goody support group will not wane, it's all about the kids don't you know?

Wonder how many kids lost a parent tonight? I expect someone out there will have a stat on that one.

 

[linglong]

Steevie, Steevie. Stop it mate. Stop believing that what she is doing is right, because it isn't. She is selling her soul, for what? For some cash for her kids? Don't they already have enough? And before you say she is about to lose her mum. My wife has no mum or dad, they both died relatively young, and she has nothing to show for it.

I also don't read about her, I see the Mirror when I go and get a more sophisticated newspaper, and it makes my guts churn when I read a new headline everyday.

Answer me this one. How come we don't read about the following people on the front page every day:

Patrick Swayze
Bobby Robson
and Wendy Richards, prior to her death.

Why? Because they don't instruct some PR scumbag to engineer story lines to squeeze more money out of the public. I have no respect for her whatsoever, I actually feel sorry for her, the Jade Goody PR machine is out of control and she is dying with absolutely no dignity whatsoever.

Great post matey