Robert Earl

[BadWool76]

I am sick to death of everyone arguing amongst themselves about Kirkby . We are all Evertonians who love the club because of what it represents . If we do move to Kirkby I will be totally devastated & give serious thought about ever stepping foot inside the new ground as to me it just will not be Everton if Everton are not in the City of Liverpool . But I will never let it drag me into a slanging match with fellow Blues . Think we need to get a grip .

 

[davek]

I can see why Davek has posted this article. But shiver me timbers, its the biggest none article posted on here for a while. Next you'll be telling me that he doesn't really support Everton and he's only in it for the money (that's irony for those who don't recognise it).

I dont think it's a non-article mate. A club director and second largest shareholder offers, on joining EFC, to do his utmost (including providing cash) to boost David Moyes' efforts, then he lets it be known he wont do that until he's secured a massive increase to his share price (which is what securing the stadium would mean). That's some story. Imagine if Bill would have said it?!

Davek, Si, if we don't move, whose bill to sell his shares to?.

We'll find out if he ever 'formally' (TM Robert Elstone) offers them for sale.

No doubt the flat earth society (KEIOC) have all the answers.

I play no part to play in KEIOC, but you cant reasonably call an organisation that has done so much work looking for and presenting possible alternatives to Kirkby 'flat earth'. Doubt their ability to deliver if you like, but backward thinking Luddites they're not.

 

[Goat]

I am sick to death of everyone arguing amongst themselves about Kirkby . We are all Evertonians who love the club because of what it represents . If we do move to Kirkby I will be totally devastated & give serious thought about ever stepping foot inside the new ground as to me it just will not be Everton if Everton are not in the City of Liverpool . But I will never let it drag me into a slanging match with fellow Blues . Think we need to get a grip .

I agree mate, oh and Pienaar is crap.

 

[Nebbiolo]

Most people aren't having slanging matches about Kirkby. What usually happens is someone will post something and people gently goad the individual. The individual tends not to respond with more than a couple of swipes and things get back to normal. Then it happens again. But it's hardly like Kipper when it erupts into mayhem and all and sundry become possessed by the spirit of Golding's Lord of the Flies. I personally don't really see a problem at all.

 

[BadWool76]

I agree mate, oh and Pienaar is crap.

Your right he is dead rubbish lid

 

[BadWool76]

Most people aren't having slanging matches about Kirkby. What usually happens is someone will post something and people gently goad the individual. The individual tends not to respond with more than a couple of swipes and things get back to normal. Then it happens again. But it's hardly like Kipper when it erupts into mayhem and all and sundry become possessed by the spirit of Golding's Lord of the Flies. I personally don't really see a problem at all.

Your right but I dont like to see anything undermining events on the pitch . This sorry arsed saga has dragged on for what seems like an eternity . I just want an answer and then we can draw a line under this once and for all

 

[Nebbiolo]

Your right but I dont like to see anything undermining events on the pitch . This sorry arsed saga has dragged on for what seems like an eternity . I just want an answer and then we can draw a line under this once and for all

Agreed, mate. I just hope the answer is the one that I want to hear and Kirkby is finally ruled out as a possibility for our great club. We deserve better.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I don't have a major problem about people posting anti-Kirkby/anti-BK/board messages, although it gets tedious when that's all they post about, but I think this is more a matter of manners to a fellow forum owner (D/D).

Presumably Si posts on a wide range of issues on his own forum and wants just such an active range of discussions to take place at NSNO. I can perfectly understand owners of rival forums not becoming full and active members on each others boards, I can't think of many instances where it does happen. So him coming on here to post solely on that one, single topic suggests an agenda of some sort and strikes me that he's merely using this forum to pursue that agenda rather than having any active interest in it.

Just a matter of etiquette for me.

 

[BlackToffee]

I dont think it's a non-article mate. A club director and second largest shareholder offers, on joining EFC, to do his utmost (including providing cash) to boost David Moyes' efforts, then he lets it be known he wont do that until he's secured a massive increase to his share price (which is what securing the stadium would mean). That's some story. Imagine if Bill would have said it?!

I play no part to play in KEIOC, but you cant reasonably call an organisation that has done so much work looking for and presenting possible alternatives to Kirkby 'flat earth'. Doubt their ability to deliver if you like, but backward thinking Luddites they're not.

I don't want to be put in the place of defending a spurs shareholder, but he never said that he wanted to secure an increase in his share price in the article. That is your cynical conclusion.

KEIOC, the same organisation leaking beautiful drawings of non potential sites which have been dismissed by all years ago. One of their leading members involved in promoting the loop as a vote spoiler, and their chair frighening little old ladies with stories of violence on the part of Everton fans, that KEIOC?

I wouldn't call them luddites because others have pointed out that Luddites have had a bad press, but Flat Earth Society, opposing the move 500 yards from the political city boundary ~ fair comment.

Its you who wants Bill to sell up and **** off. if we don't get Kirkby whose's gonna buy his shares ? I hear that Agent Johnson is back in town. Its well easy to criticise, all I hear. Not so easy to provide a solution.

 

[BadWool76]

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[DENNIS STEVENS]

has earl actually put any money onto everton? he bought shares, but not from the club. in the article it says "A spokesman for Earl said he had contributed financially by providing personal guarantees so that Everton could extend their bank borrowings and sign new players." so that won't cost him as long as everton meet the terms of the loans concerned.

on the same basis the coment "He does not, the spokesman said, intend to put further money in until Everton are in a new stadium, when the club could be in a position to attract further investments" firstly raises the question of "further to what?" & it also doesn't preclude him again providing further personal guarantees, should he be so minded.

the article doesn't really tell us very much at all.

 

[davek]

I don't want to be put in the place of defending a spurs shareholder, but he never said that he wanted to secure an increase in his share price in the article. That is your cynical conclusion. .

Why delay 'putting more money in' then? What other possible connection is there between 'investing more' and getting an answer on the stadium issue?

KEIOC, the same organisation leaking beautiful drawings of non potential sites which have been dismissed by all years ago. .

Dismissed by all? Or dismissed by the current board who are in thrall to Tesco's vision of Everton's future, or the club's stadium 'experts' who stand to make a killing in any Kirkby stadium build? Not really the same thing is it?

One of their leading members involved in promoting the loop as a vote spoiler, and their chair frighening little old ladies with stories of violence on the part of Everton fans, that KEIOC?.

A vote spoiler? I think offering only a Plan A was perhaps the biggest vote spoiler in that whole sorry process back in July/August 2007. And why is offering alternatives that the club refused to offer during the ballot period a 'vote spoiler'? Because Robert Elstone told you it was?

I wouldn't call them luddites because others have pointed out that Luddites have had a bad press, but Flat Earth Society, opposing the move 500 yards from the political city boundary ~ fair comment. .

500 yards/500 miles - it's still not Liverpool. Besides, portraying KEIOC's opposition to Kirkby on that single issue is cartoonish, reductive nonsense. You've no doubt read their evidence on the transport plan?

Its you who wants Bill to sell up and **** off. if we don't get Kirkby whose's gonna buy his shares ? I hear that Agent Johnson is back in town. Its well easy to criticise, all I hear. Not so easy to provide a solution.

Agent Johnson. Oh yeah, he was the feller that loaded Everton with debt and tried to shift the club to Kirkby. Do you know anyone else who fits that description? I'll have a good think and get back to you.

 

[Goat]

You spin me right round, baby
right round like a record, baby
Right round round round
You spin me right round, baby
Right round like a record, baby
Right round round round

All I know is that to me
You look like you're lots of fun
Open up your lovin' arms
Watch out, here I come

 

[Nebbiolo]

Kirkby is bad

Really, it is bad

 

[SimonP]

Kirkby is bad

Really, it is bad

I know mate, I've been

I've never been approached by a beggar in the Maccies drive-thru in any other town in the UK than Kirkby. Even in Walton.

As for my posts. I don't see your point Bruce. I've already said all I need to say about the Everton team on my own forum by the time I get round to coming over here and doing my usual search (I go on Kipper and here, search for my site's name, and reply to the posts containing my it where replies are either needed, or where the topic takes my fancy)

As for other questions, I don't know specifically who Kenwright should sell his shares to, but then it's not my job to find him a buyer is it. He's instructed Keith Harris to do that - although Elstone reckons he hasn't....

I do know that once the Kirkby thing falls flat on it's face - which it will - that there will be another project on the horizon, and then another, and then another. Just like when Everton failed to turn the stadium into the 50,000 seater arena they showed pictures of to the press in the mid-1990's.

I can see Kirkby getting the go-ahead from parliament. But with the clause in the deal that nothing can be built until all the compulsary purchases are completed, Everton's interest and ability to afford it will fade as the fight to get Dot Reid out of her house rages on and on. That woman on Edge Lane has fought a CPO for four years now...

The sooner Everton move onto other, more suitable, projects, the better.