summer transfers

[Goat]

as well as the fact you know he won't be an arse about being underpaid compared to others. he just wants to play footy - the money is a bonus.

Im sure he loves the moneys, but yes, its not as if hes gonna be all like "Oi, whys dat Leighton getting dat pyar wedge", im sure he knows why.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Major earners we have lost over the last year -
Moyes
Neville
Fellaini
Heitinga
Poss Jelavic and Hitlzspeger

We probably have some room in our wage bill so why not do small but noticeable increases for those players who are going to be our spine for the next few years? We will never compete on wages with the rich six but we can show that we recognise peoples effort within our means - for non mercenaries that is sometimes more valuable.

It is a bit like buying your girlfriend a bunch of flowers occasionally as a surprise vs buying expensive jewelry when you have either a) screwed up b) think she has eyes for someone else.

 

[toffeejack]

Im sure he loves the moneys, but yes, its not as if hes gonna be all like "Oi, whys dat Leighton getting dat pyar wedge", im sure he knows why.

i.e. he's the opposite of heitinga

 

[Goat]

Major earners we have lost over the last year -
Moyes
Neville
Fellaini
Heitinga
Poss Jelavic and Hitlzspeger

We probably have some room in our wage bill so why not do small but noticeable increases for those players who are going to be our spine for the next few years? We will never compete on wages with the rich six but we can show that we recognise peoples effort within our means - for non mercenaries that is sometimes more valuable.

It is a bit like buying your girlfriend a bunch of flowers occasionally as a surprise vs buying expensive jewelry when you have either a) screwed up b) think she has eyes for someone else.

Well, I did actually work out our wage bill this Season compared to last and it wasnt that different if im honest you know, my memory is terrible, but I think it was about +30k, and that was before the January window, I suppose Jela and McGready are on the same amount of moneyish.

What I think your "overlooking" are the wages we are paying Lukaku and Barry, coupled with TreeA and the lid from Barca, I cant see the last 2 being huge tho.

 

[Walken]

Well, I did actually work out our wage bill this Season compared to last and it wasnt that different if im honest you know, my memory is terrible, but I think it was about +30k, and that was before the January window, I suppose Jela and McGready are on the same amount of moneyish.

What I think your "overlooking" are the wages we are paying Lukaku and Barry, coupled with TreeA and the lid from Barca, I cant see the last 2 being huge tho.

money well spent

 

[LinekersLegs]

Well, I did actually work out our wage bill this Season compared to last and it wasnt that different if im honest you know, my memory is terrible, but I think it was about +30k, and that was before the January window, I suppose Jela and McGready are on the same amount of moneyish.

What I think your "overlooking" are the wages we are paying Lukaku and Barry, coupled with TreeA and the lid from Barca, I cant see the last 2 being huge tho.

Fair point on the Barry & Lukaku salaries.
Do you recall if the wage bill for same # of players? Feels we have expanded our squad or at least increased the useful members of it prior to injuries of course.

 

[Goat]

Fair point on the Barry & Lukaku salaries.
Do you recall if the wage bill for same # of players? Feels we have expanded our squad or at least increased the useful members of it prior to injuries of course.

Honestly im not sure and lets be honest, there was a massive degree of guesswork regarding player wages, I dont even recall what thread it was in or anything, I do recall thinking we would have a massive saving and being a bit shocked at the final figures, but as I said, lots of guesswork based on the ramblings of a moron.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Honestly im not sure and lets be honest, there was a massive degree of guesswork regarding player wages, I dont even recall what thread it was in or anything, I do recall thinking we would have a massive saving and being a bit shocked at the final figures, but as I said, lots of guesswork based on the ramblings of a moron.

It gets even more guesswork when you consider if we didn't have those loanees who we would have replaced them with in transfer costs + wages and lovely stuff such as amortisation and appearance bonuses!

 

[LinekersLegs]

Honestly im not sure and lets be honest, there was a massive degree of guesswork regarding player wages, I dont even recall what thread it was in or anything, I do recall thinking we would have a massive saving and being a bit shocked at the final figures, but as I said, lots of guesswork based on the ramblings of a moron.

The wages situation is interesting. We spent £63.5 million on wages in 2012, down ever so slightly to £63 million in 2013. That still represents a very high figure relative to our turnover, when you consider that a good figure is said to be 50%, and ours is well over 70%.
For all those people saying "what about the TV money..." there is your answer. It's going on wages.
Here are the numbers for 2012 and 2013
2012
We lost around £9 million last year, of which £4 million was interest on debt
2013
This last year, we made a £700k profit on operating business + around £5 million on player trading - the £4 million debt payments, so ended up with a profit of £1.5 million or so
The moral of the story therefore is that most of the we probably have perhaps £13 million surplus after trading and debt this year, minus whatever McGeady cost and whatever we paid for the four loan players we've acquired.I've no idea how much the loan fees are, but considering the Mail are reporting Blackpool getting 250k for Ince, it's perhaps not a stretch to assume that between those and McGeady that £13 million is down to maybe £6-7m.

Was this the thread you were thinking of?

 

[Goat]

I can guess again, its easy, watch.

Moyes 65k
Fellaini 70k
Jelavic 40k
Victor 40k
Mucha 25k
Hitzo 35k
Neville 50k
Heitinga 60k

385k a week.

Martinez 40k
Kone 50k
Robles 25k
Alcaraz 30k
McCarthy 40k
McGready 40k
Lukaku 35k
Barry 60k
Barcalid 10k
TreeA 40k

370k a week.

 

[Goat]

Add the 30k or so a week Baines has had extra and it pushes it over last Seasons, maybe, possibly.

 

[Maestro Haze]

I can guess again, its easy, watch.

Moyes 65k
Fellaini 70k
Jelavic 40k
Victor 40k
Mucha 25k
Hitzo 35k
Neville 50k
Heitinga 60k

385k a week.

Martinez 40k
Kone 50k
Robles 25k
Alcaraz 30k
McCarthy 40k
McGready 40k
Lukaku 35k
Barry 60k
Barcalid 10k
TreeA 40k

370k a week.

Moyes was on 75k with his last contract, absolute madness if you ask me.

 

[toffeeben15]

Kone won't be on 50k

 

[ijjysmith]

Kone won't be on 50k

He better bloody not be !!!

 

[Pabbers]

Statisticly, giving your better players a payrise, brings better results than not giving them a payrise.