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I agree with what Dave and the article says, but there are very few strikers that consistently score, sadly loads go through a few games without scoring.
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I wish the papers would have a proper look at our finances and failed ground moves, instead of peddling the line that we are a well run club with a fantastic chairmen.
Talksport had Paddy Barclay on last week, and he said " I hope Everton win the FA cup for Bill Kenwright, he runs the club so well " fcuk me, i would hate to see him run it badly.
Talksport had Paddy Barclay on last week, and he said " I hope Everton win the FA cup for Bill Kenwright, he runs the club so well " fcuk me, i would hate to see him run it badly.
alpha1
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The one thing I have noticed with these so called ruined strikers is that they don't go on to score bagfuls for their next clubs (with the exception of Yakubu who always scores a few to start with then forgets how to do it!)
Perhaps they just aren't that great in the first place?
I'm sure Moyes does tinker with them but as some have posted before, he is not asking them to do something that other clubs don't ask of their strikers (most play with 1 up top now and expect them to chase about)
And you can't compare a Beattie or a Johnson with the likes of Rooney or Aguero in terms of scoring lots of goals as they are about £20 million cheaper! You get what you pay for most of the time.
Someone who was scoring plenty with Jelavic last year was Papiss Cisse and his goals aren't flowing like they were this season either.
Perhaps they just aren't that great in the first place?
I'm sure Moyes does tinker with them but as some have posted before, he is not asking them to do something that other clubs don't ask of their strikers (most play with 1 up top now and expect them to chase about)
And you can't compare a Beattie or a Johnson with the likes of Rooney or Aguero in terms of scoring lots of goals as they are about £20 million cheaper! You get what you pay for most of the time.
Someone who was scoring plenty with Jelavic last year was Papiss Cisse and his goals aren't flowing like they were this season either.
ijjysmith
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Hahahaahaha
Steve Wigan
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Funnily enough, Marcus Bent was probably the ideal 'Moyes striker'...basically all he did was run the channels and act as the out ball from defence. Jelavic is another Moyes victim...even when Fellaini isn't up front, the ball still gets lumped up...what Jelavic needs is the ball into his feet in a dangerous area, or onto his head with a chance of scoring.Most of the strikers Moyes has bought have been essentially 'opportunist' strikers...not initially grafters...eventually Moyes has his strikers tearing full belt towards the corner flag so that a midfielder can run into the central space. This is the limit of Moyes attacking tactical knowledge, because his tactical mindset is essentially negative and defensive. Of course, during a game there will be occasions when we pass it through, and you would think that Moyes would realise that the number of times the passing game works is significant, and take it on board. Moyes will always prefer Felli up front, because it relieves Moyes of the responsibility of addressing other tactical attacking options.
Bigmaclad
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Look at the strikers we've had under Moyes though, hardly world beaters were they?
Saha was on the decline, Beattie and Johnson were average at best as they've proved since they've moved on, Yakubu had a horrible injury that he's never properly recovered from.
Jelavic has been getting chances recently but not putting them away. I think that he's the best we can realistically afford, he's been unlucky too this season.
Saha was on the decline, Beattie and Johnson were average at best as they've proved since they've moved on, Yakubu had a horrible injury that he's never properly recovered from.
Jelavic has been getting chances recently but not putting them away. I think that he's the best we can realistically afford, he's been unlucky too this season.
toffeejack
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Pretty much answered your own question there. With the exception of giroud (who i haven't seen play much), these strikers are all in that price bracket because they do more than just score goals. We can't afford that type of striker, so why does moyes persist into trying to turn them into another marcus bent? i mean yakubu, one of the greatest premier league poachers i've seen around, the lad doesn't need to move from the opposition penalty area, he only comes alive in that middle section in the final 3rd, and he'll get you 20 goals by doing just that so why change it?
I honestly think the problem with Jelavic is two things- The pressure of playing for a top club and confidence. Both are linked and I am still really sure that he needs to just get one, even off his backside or something that he could start playing without those shackles again.
When a random journo notices how Everton use strikers (and the following is spot on by the way...)
... then perhaps it's time for the naysayers to acknowledge the obvious.
Moyes relies on workhorse strikers pulling in the ball out wide, allowing for the onrushing central midfielders to gain space late in the box. Problem is, that's a "Plan B" strategy at best and relies on a player like Tim Cahill being in his pomp for it to work moderately well.
... then perhaps it's time for the naysayers to acknowledge the obvious.
Moyes relies on workhorse strikers pulling in the ball out wide, allowing for the onrushing central midfielders to gain space late in the box. Problem is, that's a "Plan B" strategy at best and relies on a player like Tim Cahill being in his pomp for it to work moderately well.
NewRadical
Player Valuation: £30m
This is why we should only sign strikers on one year loan deals.
I think the board would find this type of transaction quite appealing too.
I think the board would find this type of transaction quite appealing too.
What? You mean like Torres?
I don't have the numbers in front of me, but Beattie and Johnson weren't that cheap and scored regularly before they came to Everton. Beattie worked hard at the back here but that isn't what we bought him for. Johnson had his moments, but...
I don't think we have anything to complain about with Yakubu, though, and he wasn't cheap.
but all of them had better records before moyes got his ginger palms on them, than after, they all left worse players
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