Salford City Reds

[Essex Blue]

No it doesn't. Kirkby is 10 minutes drive from Goodison with rail, bus and excellent road transport links to Liverpool.

You're comparing chalk and cheese.

Kirkby's transport links are average on a normal day, and would be totally insufficient if it needed to transport 40,000 football fans away from the stadium after a match.

Lets not pretend that Kirkby has great transport links, because it doesn't, and never has. Goodison certainly has superior transport links, in almost every possible way.

 

[chrismpw]

I'm with Nigel there. Good points well made.

 

[Black Belt Jones]

Wasn't the financing of the Reds stadium extremely shady / controversial? Wondering why they're going under - is it the stadium dodgy-ness or no one going the game?

You wouldn't walk up to that stadium really - their old ground I bet 90% of the fans walked up.

 

[carlos_the_jackal]

fans are fans mate, we're fortunate to have a history that's banked up a huge fanbase but I go back as far as the 60s when we were the biggest and best supported in the city, is it the same now?

Success is everything and with our ageing fanbase the removal of Goodison Park,the last link with those days, would open a can of worms regarding the board, possible new owners and surrendering the city to the RS.

The OP cites a fair example.

I was never any great fan of the Kirkby scheme for a number of reasons and I wasn't comfortable with the club moving from the heart of the city it had been in for over 130 years out to the outskirts whether it be in Kirkby or even in, say, Speke.

I'd question how much of a fan people were if they just jibbed it off for that reason though. Especially when you see the numbers we travel with nationwide even when Sky and the Premier League seem to make it as awkward as possible with moving the fixtures around, added to that the number of blues who go to great length and cost to get to Goodison from around the country even on a weeknight.

That said, it was a bit of a rhetorical question. I reckon a lot of our fans are that fickle.

 

[steken1]

No it doesn't. Kirkby is 10 minutes drive from Goodison with rail, bus and excellent road transport links to Liverpool.
You're comparing chalk and cheese.

What do you drive Tubes, a bugatti. It's deffo not when thousands of others are on the same journey.

There's a couple of fairly regular buses and a bit of a train station thats one in one out and has trains every 20 mins on peak.

There's not many sites more remote on merseyside than the location they tried to palm us off with.

 

[teameverton]

Kirkby's transport links are average on a normal day, and would be totally insufficient if it needed to transport 40,000 football fans away from the stadium after a match.

Lets not pretend that Kirkby has great transport links, because it doesn't, and never has. Goodison certainly has superior transport links, in almost every possible way.

Goodison has superior transport links!!!And there was me thinking it was stuck in the middle of a housing estate!!

 

[Essex Blue]

Goodison has superior transport links!!!And there was me thinking it was stuck in the middle of a housing estate!!

The distance between Goodison and town isn't massive, it's walkable, which helps.

Kirkdale train station is down the road and you can get a SELECTION OF TRAINS to OrmsKirk, Kirkby, City Centre for all your Wirral line connections, Hunts Cross etc. Those going to Southport just have the small mission to Sandhills to contend with before changing. Never mind all the buses and the taxis doing the short mission in to town via Country Road. Loads drive away after parking up close to the ground too.

Do we really have to compare it to what Kirkby has to offer, because it's already been done to death?

Kirkby's transport system is fine, but it was a total mismatch for the Tesco Dome proposals. It really would have been a nightmare, and people shouldn't forget who tried to push that through!

Goodison isn't in a bad location at all IMO.

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

This news will be welcomed in Swinton. They lost their ground to a Tesco, they are playing their games at Leigh Sports Village nowadays after hiking all over the place for years.

Went to Statio Rd. Swinton in the 70's for a Premiership Final, it was a full house then but the majority of the ground was already closed off and falling to bits, an old wooden place that had hosted Challenge Cup Finals/ Held 60,000 and was regularly used for semi's.

Test match v the Aussies

 

[Royal]

Why so much hate for Kirkby?
You know stupid it is to say "keep this team in the city it represents" when our ground isn't based in Everton?
It's the inferiority complex of some bad nits from inside the boundaries who have nothing going for themselves and have to feel "more scouse" than people from just outside the boundaries.
pffft. As if kirkby "isn't in liverpool." You can shove your technicalities up your arse. I bet you think Merseyside is a real county too.

 

[Connor]

Why so much hate for Kirkby?
You know stupid it is to say "keep this team in the city it represents" when our ground isn't based in Everton?
It's the inferiority complex of some bad nits from inside the boundaries who have nothing going for themselves and have to feel "more scouse" than people from just outside the boundaries.
pffft. As if kirkby "isn't in liverpool." You can shove your technicalities up your arse. I bet you think Merseyside is a real county too.

Coming to Kirkby would of been the move we needed. Great match day transport IMO and i commute from Kirkby to game every week so i know.

 

[steken1]

Why so much hate for Kirkby?
You know stupid it is to say "keep this team in the city it represents" when our ground isn't based in Everton?
It's the inferiority complex of some bad nits from inside the boundaries who have nothing going for themselves and have to feel "more scouse" than people from just outside the boundaries.
pffft. As if kirkby "isn't in liverpool." You can shove your technicalities up your arse. I bet you think Merseyside is a real county too.

You seem a credible sort. I'm going to take your opinions on board.

 

[jaycee]

Coming to Kirkby would of been the move we needed. Great match day transport IMO and i commute from Kirkby to game every week so i know.

clueless

 

[Thuck ma Baws]

Coming to Kirkby would of been the move we needed. Great match day transport IMO and i commute from Kirkby to game every week so i know.

It obviously doesn't work like that though mate. That's like me saying I commute to Goodison from my road every week so therefore we should build a new 50,000 stadium next door to me.

 

[teameverton]

The distance between Goodison and town isn't massive, it's walkable, which helps.

Kirkdale train station is down the road and you can get a SELECTION OF TRAINS to OrmsKirk, Kirkby, City Centre for all your Wirral line connections, Hunts Cross etc. Those going to Southport just have the small mission to Sandhills to contend with before changing. Never mind all the buses and the taxis doing the short mission in to town via Country Road. Loads drive away after parking up close to the ground too.

Do we really have to compare it to what Kirkby has to offer, because it's already been done to death?

Kirkby's transport system is fine, but it was a total mismatch for the Tesco Dome proposals. It really would have been a nightmare, and people shouldn't forget who tried to push that through!

Goodison isn't in a bad location at all IMO.

When you say who tried to push that through ,i presume your talking about Kenwright,the only person that has come up with any suggestions for moving forward.Not KEIOC,Blue Union or anyone else.Its easy to criticise,its difficult to come up with answers.

 

[Essex Blue]

When you say who tried to push that through ,i presume your talking about Kenwright,the only person that has come up with any suggestions for moving forward.Not KEIOC,Blue Union or anyone else.Its easy to criticise,its difficult to come up with answers.

The board have come up with two suggestions for relocating, and failed on both of them. One project was befitting of Everton Football Club, the other was an absolute embarrassment that would have ruined a lot of what has made Everton great.

What type of administration relies on layman pressure groups to advise them on their business strategy? It isn't a pressure group's job to spoon feed the club into what they should or should not be doing. They would be ignored and wouldn't listen to their advice anyway, not least because they have very different agendas.