Standing at aways

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Why do people stand to sing at church? And why do choirs always stand? Why do them melts Westlife get off their stools when they're hitting loud notes?
 
I would prefer to stand against decent teams and sit against Wigan etc. I think it does affect atmosphere. I think when everyone is stood, people feel more comfortable starting songs. Sitting down I'm sure they sound and look like tits trying to do it. I also notice that when a song kicks off in the gwladys when the front 20 odd rows are sat and the back 10 are still stood, you get a lot of people in the sitting rows standing to join in. They then have to sit down for those behind them and then the atmosphere dies.

I don't want a Stoke style atmsophere by any means, but a slight improvement at home and away at Reading etc would be good. When a game goes by and all the fans have done is come in, sit down, expressed some faint annoyance at a few refereeing decisions, cheered when we scored followed by an "Everton, Everton, Everton" chant and then nothing until the end (no exaggeration), I think it could only help to raise the volume levels a bit.

Many scoff at the idea of singing sections but I think the ones at the cup games have enhanced the atmosphere in so-so matches where, for example, a refereeing decision goes against us. Just 20 or so lads at the back of the gwladys can encourage the noise levels to stay higher for longer. The players do respond to that. However, if we're one nil down and they're singing "oh Everton oh we love Everton" or they're singing "we're gonna have a party when Gerrard dies" they need ejecting.
 
Sing an Everton song.
Now stand up and sing it again.
Did you sing louder?


If yes, you're trying too hard to prove a point you melt.

Start off a dozen songs when everyone is sitting, see how many you get going.

Start off a dozen songs when everyone is stood and then see how you get on.

You will get far more songs going when everyone is stood, it's as though people feel less inhibited when all stood in a crowd, than when all sat in a crowd.
 

*Rolls eyes*

I'm more worried about whether we have money to sign players in January so we can finish 4th or what is happening with our future stadium plans or even more importantly, how regular fans are being priced out of football with ridiculous ticket prices, which is the WHOLE reason why atmosphere's are dead in the first place than the tedious standing/sitting debate. Just let lads do what they want.
 
If somebody wants to pay my £500 a year season ticket and the £80+ i usually spend each away game then i'll gladly stand. I'll even hop on one leg. Until then shut up and let people do what they want.
 
*Rolls eyes*

I'm more worried about whether we have money to sign players in January so we can finish 4th or what is happening with our future stadium plans or even more importantly, how regular fans are being priced out of football with ridiculous ticket prices, which is the WHOLE reason why atmosphere's are dead in the first place than the tedious standing/sitting debate. Just let lads do what they want.

Don't read or comment on it then if it's that boring.

I agree, the ridiculous ticket prices in this country is a far more serious issue and more damaging to a lot of things above and beyond the atmosphere at the game.

That won't stop people having discussions about where to bevvy on County Road on matchdays, the kit designs and what songs are acceptable to sing at the match or whatever other more trivial matters you care to mention.
 

At Arsenal the stewards won't leave you alone if you stand, even if you are on the back row with a wall at your back! I got warned twice and told next time I stood I was out.
 
How about people stand up when the urge takes them and sit down when they want. When you get thumbheads turning round trying to get other people to stand up when it's 0-0 in a crap game against someone dull it reminds me of forced whackiness, like Newcastle fans "pogo-ing for the Toon". Especially when said thumbhead is some 16 year old scrote who thinks he's Everton fan number 1.
 
Don't read or comment on it then if it's that boring.

I agree, the ridiculous ticket prices in this country is a far more serious issue and more damaging to a lot of things above and beyond the atmosphere at the game.

That won't stop people having discussions about where to bevvy on County Road on matchdays, the kit designs and what songs are acceptable to sing at the match or whatever other more trivial matters you care to mention.

It's not a boring issue at all mate, it's a very serious one, but I think what people get confused by is that by simply standing up will create a better atmosphere, that isn't the issue, its the ticket pricing.

This is a quote from the new STAND AMF magazine...

The higher the price the older and more affluent the away fan demographic becomes. This may seem trivial to some but some of the best songs are devised on the alcohol fuelled trains and coaches to away games and the well-off married couple driving to the match with their children, whilst they have every right to be at the match, will only chip in with the occasional verse of some God awful Sloop John B variant

I want teenagers and the early twenty-somethings to be able to afford a ticket because although they can be a nusiance at times, they're the ones going on the trains and coaches getting wellied and actually creating an atmosphere. Bands don't create an atmosphere at football - they create a noise - people create an atmosphere, and it's no coincidence that as the prices continue to go up, the atmosphere continues to deteriorate.
 
How about people stand up when the urge takes them and sit down when they want. When you get thumbheads turning round trying to get other people to stand up when it's 0-0 in a crap game against someone dull it reminds me of forced whackiness, like Newcastle fans "pogo-ing for the Toon". Especially when said thumbhead is some 16 year old scrote who thinks he's Everton fan number 1.

This on toast
 
How about people stand up when the urge takes them and sit down when they want. When you get thumbheads turning round trying to get other people to stand up when it's 0-0 in a crap game against someone dull it reminds me of forced whackiness, like Newcastle fans "pogo-ing for the Toon". Especially when said thumbhead is some 16 year old scrote who thinks he's Everton fan number 1.

Exactly right.
 

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