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We won't know for some time if this is a good or bad deal for Everton. Francis Jeffers was highly rated when he joined Arsenal for £8M+ back in 2001; it turned out that half his career goals have been scored for Everton, so looking back we robbed Arsenal blind. Rodwell could go the same way, or he could fulfil his potential and become a regular international. Maybe by 2014 we'll know; at present we're all speculating.
Its a bit academic whether its a good deal or bad one at the moment, it really depends on what comes in.
TX Bill
Player Valuation: £80m
My first impression of the sale of Rodwell? I thought we got a very good price for him.
After further consideration, I still think we got the better end of the deal. Now MoutsGoat might be right that we could look like we let go of the next superstar in three or four years time and if so, then that's how it goes.
But right now, and with the squad we had, I think he was really one of the ONLY saleable assets that we had that I was probably ok with selling and could fetch us a good price.
Time will tell.
After further consideration, I still think we got the better end of the deal. Now MoutsGoat might be right that we could look like we let go of the next superstar in three or four years time and if so, then that's how it goes.
But right now, and with the squad we had, I think he was really one of the ONLY saleable assets that we had that I was probably ok with selling and could fetch us a good price.
Time will tell.
Kurt.
Player Valuation: £100m
To be honest Davek you've been battered around this thread by basic logical thinking . Rodwell may or may not prove to be the player we all hoped he would turn out to be but at this moment in time, and for the last 12 months , and to be honest even longer than that, he has done nothing to justify a bigger fee than we got for him. Yes it would have been nice if the club where in a psoition to say " let's give him another 12 months and see if he does improve " but realistically we are not in that position. I really hope he does go on and achieve great things at city as he seems a decent lad but I don't think he would ever have progressed here at Everton, he had gone stale for us and maybe needed a fresh challenge to kick his career on. We got a decent fee, time to move on.
RFUS
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And how Rodwell turns out.
So for that reason I think the next time we mention Rodwell should be when he's on the team sheet against us.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
It's 'basic logical thinking' to argue that £12M for Rodwell was a sensible price to take off the richest club in the world for our 21 year old England international? You're inverting reality here to suit an argument that, because Rodwell didn't play much last season or hasn't been a regular under Moyes, we got the best of this deal...and you're not alone in that inversion of reality. Whether he goes on to have a trophy-laden career with City is not even the measuring rod of this deal - it's the massive potential City are buying, not his guaranteed performance in the future.
Kenwright got crumbs of a sheiks table and some supporters are intent on parading the crumbs as a victory. Pure self-delusion. It is what it is: a smash and grab piss take raid of a club going nowhere fast, made all the more easier by that club's perilous financial condition...and we all know why we're in that boat. It's painful to watch some people - so blinded to the cause - who cant face up to that.
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City bought him to stop others doing so.
5 years 85 appearances ? 85 ffs ? how many as a sub for 45 secs ? 4 goals.
the highlites.... Blackburn (h) then dropped until defensiveness instilled, brought back and every time he got the ball he passed it to Phil Nev.
Man Utd (h) Great Goal.
****e (h) Last Season.
I haven't seen that he's all that tbh.
Woy said:
5 years 85 appearances ? 85 ffs ? how many as a sub for 45 secs ? 4 goals.
the highlites.... Blackburn (h) then dropped until defensiveness instilled, brought back and every time he got the ball he passed it to Phil Nev.
Man Utd (h) Great Goal.
****e (h) Last Season.
I haven't seen that he's all that tbh.
ManchesterCity
Player Valuation: £225k
Did not realise how intelligent Rodwell is. He sounds just like Vincent Kompany when he joined, a soft-spoken high IQ type who has injury problems in his youth.
Well, hopefully we can get a glimpse today if Hodgson will give him some minutes against Italy. De Jong looks destined for Inter, so he may get more playing time than first imagined.
Well, hopefully we can get a glimpse today if Hodgson will give him some minutes against Italy. De Jong looks destined for Inter, so he may get more playing time than first imagined.
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KEEP YOUR FINGERS CROSSED MATE, he'll be back with an injury from the stretching in the tunnel.
He does come across well, just needs to sort his injury issues out and he will be a cracking player for you.
People talk about Rodwell's England performances like they proved him to be a magnificent talent subdued by the conservative style of Moyes. In truth, Rodwell probably was at the higher scale of his customarily average level - a curious level considering the seemingly natural physical and technical ability he's sproadically shown (roughly three minutes of every tenth game he's started) - in those two games, the main compliment being that he didn't really do anything noticably wrong.
12m rising to 15m (or rising to 17m if one is to believe what apparently sourced people have said) isn't quite the spectacular sum we were paid for Lescott, but nor is it exactly a mugging for a player who has only ever suggested potential, been static for the last three years, and had a significant injury every season. The sad reality is that we had to move a player out if we were to bring anyone in, and Rodwell, as others have already said, was the one who could command a big fee without being particularly missed.
12m rising to 15m (or rising to 17m if one is to believe what apparently sourced people have said) isn't quite the spectacular sum we were paid for Lescott, but nor is it exactly a mugging for a player who has only ever suggested potential, been static for the last three years, and had a significant injury every season. The sad reality is that we had to move a player out if we were to bring anyone in, and Rodwell, as others have already said, was the one who could command a big fee without being particularly missed.
Foot Long Hot Dog
Player Valuation: A packet of pork scratchings
I've not seen any Blues claiming 'victory', I've seen many give their opinion though. The majority of whom seem to think that it was a good deal for EFC, based on their OWN OPINION of what the lad was worth, having watched him at Goodison.
I would suggest that it's you who's seeking to twist Blues who view this deal as a good one, into them somehow endorsing Kenwright - when the 2 issues are totally unrelated, which makes your last sentence in that post, highly ironic.
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