2025/26 David Moyes

[Swartzy]

dyche would have won that on Sunday

How, it wasn't a cup game..

 

[little elfin]

A gaffer who runs a 37-year-old into the ground for 111 minutes in a Derby is hardly the man to build a project for the future, is he?

 

[Zatara]

No, you have a blend. The massive clubs will come in for the best players, which is where you get a few massive fees. The very good guys who are maybe not quite this level form the backbone of the group. You then have younger players who graduate into the first team.

Moyes had no strategy at Sunderland - he was there for just a season and had very little input into signings and none of his own coaching staff.

Basically we will have the handful of top players who will leave for massive fees to the biggest clubs. Then we’ll have the very good players who form the backbone of the team and spend most of their prime years here. Then we’ll have the younger players who come up and refresh the group.

Moyes was never a guy who went out and signed older players as a rule, outside of a few pragmatic acquisitions.

Players like Fellaini, Baines, Arteta and Coleman were all young when they signed.

What people seem to want is for loads of signings around the 21-year-old range and I just don’t think it’s practical

Serious question, why do you continue to lie about David Moyes?

Do you honestly, really genuinely believe that Sunderland went out and signed Everton reserves behind Moyes back.

That club went behind David Moyes back and signed his former players.

Just like you repeat that West Ham went behind his back and signed players. Despite it being widely known that he had the final say in transfers and that he dithered signing the final contract as it removed his power over new signings.

Because he massively failed overall on incoming transfers signing players whose resale values then plummeted.

As were also seeing now with: Rohl, Aznou, Barry, Dibling, Travers etc


You're now changing your initial post (which is fine) to say you want:

Senior players
Very good experienced players
Experienced players
A few younger players

But you say the very good players would be sold to sign more experienced players.

So we'd never have a team of very good players unless there was massive success in the youth signings. Which there wouldnt be with this manager.

Thats just huge risk in a pot and a never ending cycle of high wages and decreasing squad value.

 

[RD2910]

A gaffer who runs a 37-year-old into the ground for 111 minutes in a Derby is hardly the man to build a project for the future, is he?

Add another number on, no one will notice.

 

[Jimishorts]

And here we are again people.

 

[evertony]

Everton needs to be a club that wins trophies, plays in the champions league, wins derbies, and wins big games against big opposition. Couldn’t care less about the age profile of the team.

Moyes does not understand this unfortunately. He’s very good at moving a team from the bottom of the table to pushing for Europe, he’s not very good at getting over the line in any meaningful way.

Spot on

 

[evertony]

I think that's true mate. But in the last 25 years, which manager has had us closest to qualifying for Europe regularly etc?

That's very misleading as one manager has had the best part of 55-60% of that 25 years in charge, others had miniscule time in comparison. Equally, one manager had time to build his own squad rather than work with what he inherited which is pretty much what most of the rest did.

In the current status financially and structurally, who do you think would build a better and more attractive to watch squad if they were given a tenure of 3-5 seasons from the selected list below of previous managers or the regular names being bandied about:

Moyes
Martinez
Silva
Lampard
Iraola
Glasner
Howe

 

[Saint Domingo]

A gaffer who runs a 37-year-old into the ground for 111 minutes in a Derby is hardly the man to build a project for the future, is he?

Honestly of all the decisions recently this was one of the most baffling. I don’t know what days he’s looking at to justify that 36 year old Gueye with 100 minutes in his legs is less likely to make a mistake than a completely fresh Iroegbunam Armstrong Rohl or Alcaraz

They were off the back of playing PSG in midweek and as usual through our refusal to use subs correctly we ended up looking like the team blowing out our backsides by the end of the game.

 

[davek]

I think that's true mate. But in the last 25 years, which manager has had us closest to qualifying for Europe regularly etc?

That word is doing some heavy lifting.

As it stands: 4 times in 12 seasons.

 

[Nymzee]

That word is doing some heavy lifting.

As it stands: 4 times in 12 seasons.

He said "closest to qualifying for Europe regularly" not "qualifying for Europe regularly".

 

[davek]

Honestly of all the decisions recently this was one of the most baffling. I don’t know what days he’s looking at to justify that 36 year old Gueye with 100 minutes in his legs is less likely to make a mistake than a completely fresh Iroegbunam Armstrong Rohl or Alcaraz

They were off the back of playing PSG in midweek and as usual through our refusal to use subs correctly we ended up looking like the team blowing out our backsides by the end of the game.

I wish it was baffling - which would suggest an aberration.

But it isn't baffling at all. It's part of Moyes M.O. to play whatever the circumstance or cost to the team senior players rather than players who can do a better job.

Moyes manages for Moyes. Moyes manages politically. Moyes always looks to secure the dressing room from dissent that can unseat him.

He picked that up from Ferguson...if only he'd picked up some of his managerial talent as well.

 

[davek]

He said "closest to qualifying for Europe regularly" not "qualifying for Europe regularly".

Sophistry.

 

[Nymzee]

Sophistry.

I mean it's not, is it? We were regularly around the European spots under Moyes.

 

[davek]

I mean it's not, is it? We were regularly around the European spots under Moyes.

What does 'closest to European qualification' mean? Does 10th count, for example?

It's too vague.

Moyes qualified us for Europe 4 times. That's it.

 

[Nymzee]

What does 'closest to European qualification' mean? Does 10th count, for example?

It's too vague.

Moyes qualified us for Europe 4 times. That's it.

I don't know what catcher is classing as it, but I'd say if you're in with a shout of Europe with a few games to go regularly, that's decent.