Ring master
Player Valuation: £90m
I think some look forward to losing so they can moan even more than they moan
Trout Masked Replica
Player Valuation: £950k
He has gotten more than the sum of the parts from the squad. Yesterday the team played to it's level and a few key moments went badly.
I would much rather see a proper succession plan than a knee jerk reaction. Plenty still to play for with some injuries, usually when he does well within a hamstrung squad.
I would much rather see a proper succession plan than a knee jerk reaction. Plenty still to play for with some injuries, usually when he does well within a hamstrung squad.
Super Kevin sheedy
Player Valuation: £10m
Must be better out there
Agree with this, especially the first part. But the fact we don't have a huge budget makes last summer even worse. 3 of the 4 players we signed for large fees either aren't good enough (Barry) or don't even play (Rohl Dibling).
My point has been that clearly somewhere in the process, someone has recommended to sign Barry for close to 30m or Dibling for 35m plus.
Something is going wrong in the process or more likely, the recruitment process / team are not at all aligned with the manager. We were in no position to spend large sums of money on players not ready to start matches. Our squad desperately needs quality, we aren't a team who can take a chance on potential at these sorts of transfer fees.
Are we calling Purdy successful now?
I mean all of these people. Moyes is paid to be a football manager. These people are paid specifically and only to handle recruitment. If they’re not doing recruitment things then what exactly are they up to?
dannyboy
Player Valuation: £70m
Only way we're going to bridge the gap is for every singing in a transfer window to be a success. We're just not in the position to have 3 or 4 players sign and then barely feature.
People can talk about the manager all they want, but very little is going to change while we have a mid table squad. Incredibly rare for a manager to out perform the sum of his parts.
Ok, I attributed a win and a draw to Royle believing he'd been in charge that extra half season or so.
But you do realise what you're doing here?
In an effort to defend the worst derby manager of all time you've (illicitly) denigrated the derby day record of our greatest ever manager and cast a shadow over the unbeaten derby day record of another Everton player-manager legend.
That's some dedication you're showing to a ropey manager who's led us nowhere other than up the garden path for 12 years.
Well, you should know about dedication. Your dedication to blame Moyes for everything from the actual football to why your toast is burnt is admirable, to say the least.
I would rather be going up the garden path than down into the basement, like we were before him (twice).
Agree with this, we need a stable succession plan. If that happens this summer, then fair enough, but if the owners do have Moyes in the role next season and back room decisions are already made according to that, then that is what needs to happen.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
He took us to the trapdoor and danced on it in his second season in charge. 17th.
Good job for him Kenwright was making he decisions or he'd have been down the road under any other owner-chairman.
McKindrick Blue
Player Valuation: £750k
FFS! Can't even be bothered to trawl through all the cry-arsing on here. Been following this thread for ages and occasionally comment but the amount of new wet wipes that have popped up to post utter bilge on here in the aftermath of a derby defeat is ridiculous. Pant-pissing all over the shop.
I'm with you on the disappointment. It was gut-wrenching to lose that, particularly with that utter nob VVD getting the winner. No blue will be happy with that of course. However, we were by far the better team for 30 mins, should/could have been a couple of goals up but for fine margins. Great save from their keeper. A good shout for a pen (if that's Salah at the other end it's given 100%), a horrible miss from Beto when clean through and an offside decision that was a matter of centimetres. An individual error hands them a massive boost, but we get back into it after half time and had chances to score a second. We were unlucky with injuries and every change we made had no effect (possibly made us worse).
The hyperbole on here is legendary. I've watched us surrender so many derby games through the years but I thought we gave it a go today at least. A few players let themselves down and I'll accept that there may have been a few things Moyes could have done differently, but ultimately it was very fine margins and we lost to a set piece in the 11th minute of injury time. Painful definitely, but some of the knee-jerking on here is astonishing!
I agree that Moyes is risk averse. I agree that he has a ceiling. I agree that he's not the future. But he's here for now, has done a good job in turning us round from relegation battle regulars, and we still have hope of getting European football if we get behind him and the team for the last few games. Come the end of the season we can take stock and see where we are, but if we make a change then we need the right guy not some flavour of the month.
Christ sake, it's like a bunch of 2 year olds having a mass tantrum in here.
I'm with you on the disappointment. It was gut-wrenching to lose that, particularly with that utter nob VVD getting the winner. No blue will be happy with that of course. However, we were by far the better team for 30 mins, should/could have been a couple of goals up but for fine margins. Great save from their keeper. A good shout for a pen (if that's Salah at the other end it's given 100%), a horrible miss from Beto when clean through and an offside decision that was a matter of centimetres. An individual error hands them a massive boost, but we get back into it after half time and had chances to score a second. We were unlucky with injuries and every change we made had no effect (possibly made us worse).
The hyperbole on here is legendary. I've watched us surrender so many derby games through the years but I thought we gave it a go today at least. A few players let themselves down and I'll accept that there may have been a few things Moyes could have done differently, but ultimately it was very fine margins and we lost to a set piece in the 11th minute of injury time. Painful definitely, but some of the knee-jerking on here is astonishing!
I agree that Moyes is risk averse. I agree that he has a ceiling. I agree that he's not the future. But he's here for now, has done a good job in turning us round from relegation battle regulars, and we still have hope of getting European football if we get behind him and the team for the last few games. Come the end of the season we can take stock and see where we are, but if we make a change then we need the right guy not some flavour of the month.
Christ sake, it's like a bunch of 2 year olds having a mass tantrum in here.
Bill seen what he could do for him, his perfect shield while he got to play Mr Chairman.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
Thelwell/Purdy
O'Brien, Garner, Tarkowski, Iroegbunam, Ndiaye, Beto not to mention Onana.
Compared with Moyes signings.
You can answer that by looking at who has the final decision making power on transfers.
David Moyes.
So, weve hired his mate from City and Moyes has got the decision making power.
Therefore, they all do what Moyes wants.
Imagine if the younger players were developed.
What if...it wasnt a midtable squad?
She’s dead Zat you Manilla bothering monster. Wow!It occured to me about the rumours of new signings at United.
Baines, Bale, Kroos & Ronaldo I think?
Then Moyes signed Fellaini for them.
Youre right though, no manager gets their first choices. We were told Ramsay, McGinn and Soucek were the main ones with Delap.
He then blamed no europe.
Hes now saying he spoke with 12 players and is happy Grealish and KDH signed.
Sleep sadly not but yer ma cooks up a fabulous english breakfast.
Lovely muffin as well
BlueStevie35
Player Valuation: £70m
And within 5 years after that we were consistently challenging the European spots
