Bad ref decisions - for and against - season 2025/26

[Bedfordblue]

That’s the of the stats though isn’t it? Stats wise that doesn’t hold up. Unless you think the people preparing the stats are biased.

It’s not about bias though, that incident wouldn’t even enter a statistical analysis as VAR didn’t intervene.
Same reason neither of the baldies will discuss it as there’s nothing to discuss as far as PGMOL are concerned.
Yet the images and videos last 4-5 pages show quite clearly there’s a startling inconsistency in pretty much identical handball circumstances.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

It’s not about bias though, that incident wouldn’t even enter a statistical analysis as VAR didn’t intervene.
Same reason neither of the baldies will discuss it as there’s nothing to discuss as far as PGMOL are concerned.
Yet the images and videos last 4-5 pages show quite clearly there’s a startling inconsistency in pretty much identical handball circumstances.

There is but I don’t think it just affects Everton. The refs in general are awful. We just tend to forget every bad decision that goes in our favour.

 

[Bluewolf]

What about the ones we got away with? Doucoure throwing forests defender to the ground in the penalty area. Tarkowskis dangerous tackle against macallister. Thats just off the top of my head. Swings and roundabouts, you need to look at both sides of the coin. Pretty sure i read somewhere that last season we benefitted from bad referee decisions overall

The only people who say its swings and roundabouts are the top teams that have about 5 bad decisions go against them every season.

Who then loose their marbles and never shut up about it. Where everyone else gets 1 every other game.

Also tarks tackle on McAllister wasnt a red. He won the ball and McAllister was too late to challenge for it and got caught with the follow through.

I keep saying this that players can't change the laws of physics mid sliding tackle and stop on a 6 pence is nonsense.

This idea that any tackle is anything other then of a out of control tackle is crazy to me. Once you start sliding you have zero control of when you stop. Momentum is real

 

[arch stanton]

The only people who say its swings and roundabouts are the top teams that have about 5 bad decisions go against them every season.

Who then loose their marbles and never shut up about it. Where everyone else gets 1 every other game.

Also tarks tackle on McAllister wasnt a red. He won the ball and McAllister was too late to challenge for it and got caught with the follow through.

I keep saying this that players can't change the laws of physics mid sliding tackle and stop on a 6 pence is nonsense.

This idea that any tackle is anything other then of a out of control tackle is crazy to me. Once you start sliding you have zero control of when you stop. Momentum is real

this! if you freeze the footage when Tarkowski kicks the ball, Mcallister is still coming into the challenge, late. he puts himself in the way of a strong follow through

 

[Bez2k2k]

The only people who say its swings and roundabouts are the top teams that have about 5 bad decisions go against them every season.

Who then loose their marbles and never shut up about it. Where everyone else gets 1 every other game.

Also tarks tackle on McAllister wasnt a red. He won the ball and McAllister was too late to challenge for it and got caught with the follow through.

I keep saying this that players can't change the laws of physics mid sliding tackle and stop on a 6 pence is nonsense.

This idea that any tackle is anything other then of an out of control tackle is crazy to me. Once you start sliding you have zero control of when you stop. Momentum is real

If you honestly think Tarkys wasn’t a red then quite frankly I don’t think you understand that much about footy.

 

[Marcus Kendall]

There is but I don’t think it just affects Everton. The refs in general are awful. We just tend to forget every bad decision that goes in our favour.

To be fair to the refs they are constantly being told of new ways to view the rules of the game and if we as fans find it all confusing I'm not surprised refs do too. The real culprits are the VAR teams and the use of slow motion

 

[Bluewolf]

If you honestly think Tarkys wasn’t a red then quite frankly I don’t think you understand that much about footy.

If you think it is you've never played footy... or understand physics

 

[Bez2k2k]

If you think it is you've never played footy... or understand physics

I’m all for a good old fashioned challenge mate. Yes he gets the ball. He almost breaks his leg. It’s a clear 100% red card.

 

[terryefc]

Ref's do quite well by and large - bearing in mind the massive responsibility and minimal assistance they get.

I would like to see independent time keepers appointed though. The time wasting, gamesmanship and blatant cheating with fake head injuries is getting tiresome. Those geordies take it to a next level - but most teams are guilty.

Let's have some transparency with what time is going to be added. Shouldn't be too difficult or controversial.

 

[Marcus Kendall]

I’m all for a good old fashioned challenge mate. Yes he gets the ball. He almost breaks his leg. It’s a clear 100% red card.

Which challenge are you talking about? I thought it was the shove against Forest that was the topic so what leg breaking tackle do you mean?

 

[Bez2k2k]

Which challenge are you talking about? I thought it was the shove against Forest that was the topic so what leg breaking tackle do you mean?

I think the derby macallister tackle.

 

[Marcus Kendall]

I think the derby macallister tackle.

Ahh yes I vaguely recall that now. It's a tackle that can be viewed 2 ways to be fair depending on your views of tackling

 

[Lanolin]

I’m all for a good old fashioned challenge mate. Yes he gets the ball. He almost breaks his leg. It’s a clear 100% red card.

I’m about as biased as they come, especially when it comes to derbies, and as soon as I saw a replay of the tackle (having originally howled at a free kick being given) I was 100% convinced he was off. Anyone claiming we didn’t get away with that one just isn’t worth taking seriously on the topic to be honest, their bias is obviously way too much to allow them to give a valid opinion.

 

[Marcus Kendall]

I’m about as biased as they come, especially when it comes to derbies, and as soon as I saw a replay of the tackle (having originally howled at a free kick being given) I was 100% convinced he was off. Anyone claiming we didn’t get away with that one just isn’t worth taking seriously on the topic to be honest, their bias is obviously way too much to allow them to give a valid opinion.

In the modern game he indeed was lucky to get away with it. Derbies are usually reffed with more allowance for physical challenges though with the nature of these games. I personally think they've ruined football with the over zealous actions of red cards for full bloodied tackles as that's an art of the game which fans have always enjoyed especially if you're the underdog and needing to get 'stuck' in

 

[Bluewolf]

I’m about as biased as they come, especially when it comes to derbies, and as soon as I saw a replay of the tackle (having originally howled at a free kick being given) I was 100% convinced he was off. Anyone claiming we didn’t get away with that one just isn’t worth taking seriously on the topic to be honest, their bias is obviously way too much to allow them to give a valid opinion.

Okay, please explain to me what tarks was ment to do in that situation?

Was he supposed to just stand there and let a player run over and get the ball on the edge of our box?

A player that was no where near the ball when tarks starts going to clear it.

Simple fact of the matter is tarks does a sliding clearance of the ball and McAllister literally runs into tarks path thats not a red card.

Or are you one of these people who thinks defenders can stop on a dime whilst sliding along the floor?