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Maybe Ben Johnson for West Ham, but it doesn’t really matter because you play them if they’re good enough. Aznou is not good enough at this point in time.
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Maybe Ben Johnson for West Ham, but it doesn’t really matter because you play them if they’re good enough. Aznou is not good enough at this point in time.
To start a teenage fullback in the prem they have to be top notch, this kid clearly isn't yet.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
I dont think that is definitely the case. After all he started Ngakia at West Ham (who I liked but isnt top notch).
carolinablue232
Player Valuation: £70m
Clarky cat
Player Valuation: £40m
Make it so!
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Were we? I’m not saying you’re wrong but I have no recollection of this and haven’t really seen it mentioned on here. I just had a quick look back at your posts about him and it seems you aren’t aware of it initially either, did it come to light later?
Already done it, but with fewer options.
He's making sure Aznou gets minutes for the u21's, has him training with the first team and he's including him in most matchday squads. He's now reportedly considering sending him out on loan to accelerate his development.
That's nurturing. Throwing a player into Premier League football who clearly isn't ready is not nurturing.
carolinablue232
Player Valuation: £70m
Should Dibling be getting more minutes than he is? Can you give me a recent example where a young player came through or was bought and Moyes trusted them in teh first team early on without being forced? Barry, sort of but that's only because he doesn't have a different striker who knows how to kick a ball.
Just don't think Moyes will ever be a risk taker. And a risk taker is needed with young players sometime.
carolinablue232
Player Valuation: £70m
Exactly. But Moyes still doesn't trust Dibling to play, even in logical situations. I have no clue if Aznou should be getting spot minutes as I've only seen him play like twice.
My point simply remains that Moyes ops for safety so we rarely actually get a chance to see if a youngster could be ready if given time. How he handles Armstrong when he returns will be telling as well. If he gets a genuine chance and Dibling sees more opportunity going foward, then I'll retract my statement.
James Patrick
Player Valuation: £15m
Unfortunately the quality of PL youngsters is largely commensurate with budgets. So City, Utd, Lpool, Chelsea etc are scooping up the best and they are more likely to be able to bring them through easier than ourselves were the consequences of playing are less as they are often surrounded by higher quality.
Then there are clubs were relegation is not such an unacceptable pill to swallow so they have a degree of latitude with results and can persist with younger players as the club will take a view that this is their business model that they can develop and sell such talent if they go down.
RichCee123
Player Valuation: £2.5m
I’m a fan. The facts clearly speak for themselves but what sits behind it is also interesting. How many young players has Moyes disregarded as a teen but has then played at the top level (the Sky 6)?
We are talking about Dibling alone at the moment who the jury is out on. Armstrong apart, there’s no one else. (As you said.)
There was no one at WHU, United or Sunderland that I can think of.
Maybe Mustafi but we had international cb at the time.
Oh and Eric Dier of course… haha
He's not ready to play in the Premier League, you don't need to watch him for long to see that.
My point still stands, all the evidence is there that Moyes is nurturing him.
I doubt "throwing him in at the deep end so people on the Internet can make a judgement" is high on the agenda of any manager who's nurturing young potential.
