2025/26 Tyler Dibling

[Eggs]

It's because he's young, talented and has the world at this feet, whereas Eggs is a former career civil servant living off the glories of a few goals he scored 50 years ago, and he can't understand why Dibling isn't working his knackers off, because that's what he would have done if he was Dibling. Understandable, but not everyone is the same, especially in these days of kids getting mega money before they've really achieved anything in the game. This is the modern game though, and Moyes doesn't really understand it much more than Eggs does.

….nobody will be happier than this old man if Dibling turns out to be the superstar predicted.

What I disagree with is the constant excuse that it’s Moyes fault it not turning out as expected. For all we know, the kid could be struggling and Moyes is handling him correctly, or he’s simply failed to live up to expectation.

Easy for me to join the ‘blame Moyes’ posters but I try to apply a bit of logic. Moyes endorsing a big money deal for a player and then holding him back when needed just doesn’t make sense, the move can’t have gone as expected for some reason.

To say Moyes doesn’t understand the ‘modern game’ is just a bit daft and negates your post. You’re right about one thing, it is over 50 years since I scored at Old Trafford, as well as Elland Rd, not to mention Villa Park, Goodison, Anfield, Filbert St et al

 

[ValBlue]

Baines had 13 starts and 9 sub appearances when he signed.

He was 22 years old.

I'm not particularly concerned about this seasons impact from Dibling. I'm concerned about his development, which may be seen as the same thing by some.

What I would like to see is players like Dibling signed. Those top young stars who can be developed and in 2 seasons time be our star players around the top 4-6.

I'm frustrated and annoyed that Moyes isnt starting him now while Ndiaye is away. I'm also annoyed that he's not being given 20mins when Ndiaye or Grealish look tired at around 70mins.

I note the point that the money could have been used better this season. Thats quite clear. However, we've got to look at the longer term with certain signings, those that can be the future of the club.

John McGinn and Soucek may have had an immediate impact. In 2 seasons they'd be further on the downward slope while Dibling should be a star.

This probably annoys me the most.

I totally agree with people saying we needed signings for right now, with the striker being the most imperative in terms of readiness. That has been a massive failure across the board.

However, modern football is arguably more about the squad than the starting 11, and investing proper money into ‘the next man up’ is something I see as a good thing and was happy when we did so with Dibling. Not having the pressure of starting every game for a demanding fanbase and being the main man is in theory a great environment for him to get integrated and up to speed in. Grealish looks gassed after 70 minutes, it’s an easy sub to bring Dibling on and put Ndiaye on the left where he’s even more effective. Bang, you still have Ndiaye as the main danger man and the main outlet, but now you’ve also have Dibling playing considerable minutes in his preferred role. You also get a fitter Grealish who isn’t run into the ground every game.

So what now? Nothing changes? We get to next season, where Dibling should be in a position with enough minutes to start, but he’s not. Then what?

 

[Clarky cat]

I’ve just searched your name against the word “Dibling” and you’ve mentioned him in 15 posts since yesterday.

You seem to have a weird obsession with him.

It’s relentless, all pushing a fabricated narrative as well. Strange how Adam Aznou hasn’t had his “character” questioned isn’t it?
Now do the search with “Thelwell”

 

[Zatara]

I won't be irked unless on Sat he doesn't start as that game is perfect for Dibling, I think Moyes likes to utilize Mcneil for defensive stability, so I do understand Mcneil starting against Arsenal. aAso like you said it's clear Moyes has a history of easing younger players in for giving them regular playing time, people love to just make assumptions

Yeah he's got to have a chance now.

No doubt this place will be a powder keg but i'd not be shocked if he needed games to get up to speed.

This probably annoys me the most.

I totally agree with people saying we needed signings for right now, with the striker being the most imperative in terms of readiness. That has been a massive failure across the board.

However, modern football is arguably more about the squad than the starting 11, and investing proper money into ‘the next man up’ is something I see as a good thing and was happy when we did so with Dibling. Not having the pressure of starting every game for a demanding fanbase and being the main man is in theory a great environment for him to get integrated and up to speed in. Grealish looks gassed after 70 minutes, it’s an easy sub to bring Dibling on and put Ndiaye on the left where he’s even more effective. Bang, you still have Ndiaye as the main danger man and the main outlet, but now you’ve also have Dibling playing considerable minutes in his preferred role. You also get a fitter Grealish who isn’t run into the ground every game.

So what now? Nothing changes? We get to next season, where Dibling should be in a position with enough minutes to start, but he’s not. Then what?

Yes now we need to see Dibling starting games while Ndiaye is away.

Then when Ndiaye returns it will be interesting to see the differences and whether Moyes does start rotating Dibling in for 20mins a pop.

 

[Eggs]

Baines had 13 starts and 9 sub appearances when he signed.

He was 22 years old.

I'm not particularly concerned about this seasons impact from Dibling. I'm concerned about his development, which may be seen as the same thing by some.

What I would like to see is players like Dibling signed. Those top young stars who can be developed and in 2 seasons time be our star players around the top 4-6.

I'm frustrated and annoyed that Moyes isnt starting him now while Ndiaye is away. I'm also annoyed that he's not being given 20mins when Ndiaye or Grealish look tired at around 70mins.

I note the point that the money could have been used better this season. Thats quite clear. However, we've got to look at the longer term with certain signings, those that can be the future of the club.

John McGinn and Soucek may have had an immediate impact. In 2 seasons they'd be further on the downward slope while Dibling should be a star.

….Baines was clearly handled dreadfully, his career fell away. He only went on to play 348 games for us and get 30 full international caps.

Who was the other one Moyes mishandled, oh some kid called Rooney. I wonder what happened to him

I think it was Moyes who handed debuts to 13 teenagers in his first spell, still some of the youngest to ever represent the club. Arsenal the only club to have more PL teenagers during that time. I think he knows what he’s doing.

Sometimes things just don’t work out as expected, nobody’s fault in particular. Let’s hope Dibling turns out to be in the Baines and Rooney category.

 

[hallamblue]

….nobody will be happier than this old man if Dibling turns out to be the superstar predicted.

What I disagree with is the constant excuse that it’s Moyes fault it not turning out as expected. For all we know, the kid could be struggling and Moyes is handling him correctly, or he’s simply failed to live up to expectation.

Easy for me to join the ‘blame Moyes’ posters but I try to apply a bit of logic. Moyes endorsing a big money deal for a player and then holding him back when needed just doesn’t make sense, the move can’t have gone as expected for some reason.

To say Moyes doesn’t understand the ‘modern game’ is just a bit daft and negates your post. You’re right about one thing, it is over 50 years since I scored at Old Trafford, as well as Elland Rd, not to mention Villa Park, Goodison, Anfield, Filbert St et al

I don't think it's daft, if you look at his squads he looks to buy and play reliable 7/10 types, and if you look at his management style it's " safety first", which is why he's only ever won 1 trophy. I was delighted for him, but he's just not got the cojones to take risks and that will always hold him and his teams back

 

[Eggs]

I don't think it's daft, if you look at his squads he looks to buy and play reliable 7/10 types, and if you look at his management style it's " safety first", which is why he's only ever won 1 trophy. I was delighted for him, but he's just not got the cojones to take risks and that will always hold him and his teams back

…..disagree, it defies logic that if he’s got a player burning up the training ground with quality that’s superior to other players, he’s not going to select him. Remember, Moyes sanctioned the Dibling deal. Not sure if he also brought the likes of Kudus to West Ham. Not ‘safety first types.

This is the view I find unbelievable. The thought he has a 9/10 player in training but then doesn’t select him because he prefers somebody safe. If that was the case he’d pick McNeil over Ndiaye.

For me, everything points to the fact that Dibling has been disappointing.

 

[Toffeepot]

So far I don't really rate him on his limited minutes but really don't understand why he's not just given a run now. He and everyone else would know Ndiaye walks back into the spot.
Playing McNeil just makes no sense to me he offers so little
He must be bad in training, and it wouldn't surprise me because he doesn't seem to graft when on as sub either.
I trust Moyes on this one, but when the other option is McNeil then why the hell not play Dibling!?

 

[NathDogg]

I couldn’t care less if Diblings not pulling up trees in training, when the alternative is already busted flush Dwight McNeil, who is completely finished.

People making excuses for Moyes not playing him and justifying the selection of McNeil need their heads examining, it’s a farce.

The Dibling situation is 100% on Moyes - the lad should have been playing a lot more minutes than he has, and no doubt he will take time to get going properly now, as he’s played the square root of frig all competitive football, which will mean the clowns probably get on his back even more.

Anyone writing the lad off needs their brain cell checking also, he’s not appeared enough to make that assessment, but we all know McNeil is dogturd, it seems, except Davey boy.

The Arsenal game was the free hit for Davey and Dibling, the managers cowardice put paid to that. After mcneils performance against Arsenal, Dibling should start against Burnley, but I’m not sure our footballing coward of a manager will go for it.

 

[hallamblue]

…..disagree, it defies logic that if he’s got a player burning up the training ground with quality that’s superior to other players, he’s not going to select him. Remember, Moyes sanctioned the Dibling deal. Not sure if he also brought the likes of Kudus to West Ham. Not ‘safety first types.

This is the view I find unbelievable. The thought he has a 9/10 player in training but then doesn’t select him because he prefers somebody safe. If that was the case he’d pick McNeil over Ndiaye.

For me, everything points to the fact that Dibling has been disappointing.

Eggs you like your racing. Some horses train really well, some only show it on the racecourse. Training is not necessarily an indicator of how good a player is. It is, however, used by limited managers like Dyche and Moyes to justify selecting try hard cart horses over more mercurial talents.

 

[Eggs]

Eggs you like your racing. Some horses train really well, some only show it on the racecourse. Training is not necessarily an indicator of how good a player is. It is, however, used by limited managers like Dyche and Moyes to justify selecting try hard cart horses over more mercurial talents.

….shakes head

 

[Seathestars]

Part of me is happy that he is more steady than flash when he does get a chance.
The dreamer and Everton fan inside me wants him to light up like Messi, but maybe steady is just his way.
In the minutes I've seen him on the pitch I don't think he's done anything wrong and so I think he deserves more minutes.

 

[hallamblue]

Part of me is happy that he is more steady than flash when he does get a chance.
The dreamer and Everton fan inside me wants him to light up like Messi, but maybe steady is just his way.
In the minutes I've seen him on the pitch I don't think he's done anything wrong and so I think he deserves more minutes.

He's steady because he's frightened of making a mistake, you can draw your own conclusions as to why.

 

[MACCA75]

He's steady because he's frightened of making a mistake, you can draw your own conclusions as to why.

How much did you watch him at Southampton? Because he wasn’t racking up goals and assists there either. He might make it at Prem level or he might not at this point.

 

[Joey66]

My brother has heard a rubbish rumour - we swap Dibling for Middleborough star midfielder - hardly likely as we are buy him with instalments ....

if its on how many game he starts we are quids in .....