2025/26 David Moyes

[Delargeinho]

Can't disagree in some ways mate, he's clearly got lots of good attributes, although it boils down to what success looks like, and what we think Everton are capable of achieving?

Everton were 4th in terms of league titles when he joined, and had fairly recently won the FA Cup, personally I'd argue four European qualifications and an FA Cup final in 11 years, wasn't that great.

Yes there were times we played some good stuff, but long term success? I've seen nothing to suggest he's capable of that. It's been 30 years without a pot, and he's been in charge for over a third of that time.

1995 to 2002 is still a long time....

No arguing that a trophy is the biggest thing in football to win, but don't forget how bad the 90s were otherwise coming from the 80s. Relegation battle was the majority. We finished 13th on average from 90/91 to 00/01 with 48 points on average, which is about exactly where Everton landed the last 2 seasons. The seasons under Moyes didn't bring a trophy, but 8th and 56 points on average.

The 5 years ban came in the worst moment for Everton and therefore we missed the chance to get international revenue and gain reputation to get another Linekers and so on, that's sure. We clearly missed to jump on the train to make us a financial power in the 90s by being to anxious too conservative and not adapting to the changing market it's a lack of ambition in the end, also had no one like Jack Walker that was willing to spend.