Well done Rach

[urquattro]

A solution to this may be for employers to pay people fairly so they don’t need to access the welfare system…. Just an idea

I agree, a good wage and a good standard of living for all and support for anybody who falls on hard times or can't work for various reasons.
I only posted to explain the difference between child benefit and the two child cap of universal credit child benefit which are completely different things.

 

[mahermi1]

Someone getting £4k (now £5k) in cash, or through other means, rent, council tax, carers allowance, pip support, UC top up etc...

...

£17.25 per extra child.

1000/17.25 = 58

Does this client have an extra 58 kids that were previously going without? Must have been multiple births per pregnancy 'cos 58x9months = 522 months up the duff. /12 = 43.5 years. Obviously on top of the two original kids. (or rather first two kids...)

Princ err is his name Andrew?

 

[neil999]

There remains an overall benefit cap for those not in work btw, there is a genuine misunderstanding of the benefit system and how the 2 child cap works..

 

[urquattro]

how is £17.25 x 4 (per head) equal to £292.81?

The £17.25 is child benefit which isn't capped.
The £292.81 is an additional payment for each child when a parent is claiming universal credit also known as child benefit which is confusing I agree.

All the information is readily available.

 

[Rita_Poon]

The £17.25 is child benefit which isn't capped.
The £292.81 is an additional payment for each child when a parent is claiming universal credit also known as child benefit which is confusing I agree.

All the information is readily available.

Children get a year older every year. Hit 18 or 16? and all that lovely free cash* is gone.

 

[urquattro]

Children get a year older every year. Hit 18 or 16? and all that lovely free cash* is gone.

Yes, when the children reach 18 those payments stop.

 

[neil999]

This is why its wrong-

The benefit system is set up as a safety net to provide a basic standard if living and provides an amount of money you need for this

If you have more children, the cost of this basic amount obviously increases(food, clothing, energy bills)

Anyone who has 3 or more children do not therefore receive what the government defines as a basic standard of living , hence child poverty

 

[urquattro]

Pardon my being a little picky...




So a household of five, and lets be a bit more accurate, a disabled household of five. Pip for both parents could be being used to get carers in to help them. Motability, prescriptions. It was never £5k a month to go out partying was it. Context is quite important in examples like this.

I'm not suggesting you or anyone else is responsible for cases like the following.

Disability hate crime: 'This is the worst I've experienced it'

Home Office statistics suggest disability related hate crime is falling, but Steven Lacey's lived experience paints a different picture.

www.bbc.co.uk

"I'd have thought with the cities battle against murdoch's sun newspaper and the brutality of the thatcher regime against the poor that the Merseyside region could sniff out and condemn the traitors that've slit throats for their own gains at the cost to the poorest and most vulnerable."

Household of Seven.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Household of Seven.

£1250 a week/7 = £178.60 per head, but that takes rent and CT then fuel out before you start. It's not quite the casino of Monte Carlo highlife is it.

 

[urquattro]

£1250 a week/7 = £178.60 per head, but that takes rent and CT then fuel out before you start. It's not quite the casino of Monte Carlo highlife is it.

Not saying it is or it isn't. I just explained the difference between child benefit and universal child credit.

 

[Pootsy]

Oh, just googled it. That big lanky lad, Richard Osman. It's daytime TV. Not my scene.

It’s brilliant though.

 

[Jamiednm]

Well done on continuing where the Tories left off in further squeezing the middle class, increasing the welfare bill and doing nothing to address the real issue - the tax avoiding super rich.

When we’re all living as serfs under the tech oligarchy, Rachel from accounts will be amongst those to thank.

 

[Pootsy]

So with 3 kids that would pay for a decent weekly night out, say 6 pints and a ruby.

Kids…pfft let them eat beans

Heartless Swine!



Bring them home a doggy bag.

 

[Thomasc]

Incredible that there’s actually very rich people out there asking to be taxed more and it’s overlooked.

 

[Kurt.]

Well done on continuing where the Tories left off in further squeezing the middle class, increasing the welfare bill and doing nothing to address the real issue - the tax avoiding super rich.

When we’re all living as serfs under the tech oligarchy, Rachel from accounts will be amongst those to thank.

You’re not happy with lifting the 2 child cap ?