2025/26 David Moyes

[blulouie]

Lol.... let's not be silly.

He'd go down as well as Jaffa Boy.

 

[bicycleheader]

It just seems to me that people expected us to be challenging for Europe, and I never once expected it this season.

Thankfully comments like this are getting a bit more rare lately. I like to think a lot of posters who were/are quite pro-Moyes have either already gotten a bit sick of him themselves or have to admit that almost nobody has said or is saying they expected Europe.

I think it's a weak way of dismissing criticism. If football fans can't have a strong opinion of a manager after 12 seasons then when can they...

Personally I don't think the week to week struggles are worth going into details on. I don't expect anything out of the ordinary from him and nor do I expect anything disastrous. for me the backlash against him was entirely predictable given his history with us.

Of more interest is just how competently the "new" Everton will be when we do decide to change up. Would be a real breath of fresh air if it all seems properly thought and with a real plan for the future

 

[bicycleheader]

Does anyone know who we'd want to get as manager if we sacked Moyes? Because I'm seeing an awful lot of "get rid" posts from people who don't seem to understand that this is real life. Not fifa manager. Sacking any manager, mid-season without any realistic upgrades available is a bad idea. I'm far from being happy with Moyes. He never changes or learns. He torpedoed our season when he shrugged off our league cup campaign. But I'm not going to demand that we cut our noses off, to spite our faces and call to sack him without any real plan in place beyond that. Its nonsense.

I don't care if there's new owners, I wouldn't trust Everton Football Club as far as I could throw them. I just assume we will make a pigs ear out of it, until it's shown we don't.

 

[davek]

The searching press conference questions I'd expect from the 5th estate this week:

"David, taking a point away from home against an in-form Sunderland is a positive, isn't it..."

"David, is it the case that more than one transfer window will be required here at Everton to make the team competitive again..."

"David, Fulham look to have found their feet again, dont they. Just how difficult will this game be on Saturday..."

 

[Milos Milenkovic]

I was not his biggest fan first time around but I think he is doing decent job this time. One thing that I would like to be improved is our fitness. It looks to me that almost every team is stronger in that way

 

[Bedfordblue]

 

[Bedfordblue]

Reek’s of Chico.

 

[MikeH72]

@davek has just spunked his undies.

 

[Drico]

I was expecting this to be a transitional year of building the basis of a new team, would have been happy to watch us play to a midtable finish if I could see a young team that looked like it could kick on next year.

Needless to say that's not happened. We brought in some highly rated young players over the summer who he's not getting enough out of, some aren't playing at all.

Most importantly results have tailed off, and not for the first time yesterday it was on poor game management from Moyes more than anything else.

Things can turn around very quickly in football but atm I dont think he's doing a good job at all.

He was brought in for "stability". He did a tremendous job rescuing us with something to spare. Full credit for that. That should have been it as some of us said at the time. But let's be charitable and say he really had to stay on for contractual reasons, etc (to get him to come at all last year and because the competent professionals we were waiting for were still on gardening leave). His job in the summer was to start rebuilding us and put a team on the pitch ready for this season - a mid-table one at best with perhaps an exciting cup run thrown in. That was what was required. So he spent €100m on players he has now basically discarded and demoralised. That's not stability and it is not progress.

Moyes had no business here unless he was progressing us and stabilising us. Right now, he is mismanaging €100m of talent that he was party to signing. He is demonstrably failing to get the best out of this outlay. Unless he gets a grip fast - as in Saturday and at Old Trafford - then we are in for a Dyche-type December all over again. He can't be let loose on any transfer funds in January if his mismangement of this summer's outlay is any guide.

I'm convinced there is a schism with the competent professionals. This will end sooner rather than later. Fulham is a must-win. Lose that and there is an international break - which is the best time for a managerial change this side of the summer. I would prefer Moyes to survive until the summer, but not if he is damaging us by doing so. Let's face it, his knife won't win the gunfight at Old Trafford after the break...

 

[Drico]

Reek’s of Chico.

We would have laughed this account off until recently. However, it has new credibility since the summer, believe it or not. Articles on Indykaila were published in the likes of the Guardian telling us he is now actually informed...

I don't think I could stomach Rodgers - but his sides do play football.

 

[Drico]

 

[Old Blue 2]

Disagree.

He coaches the team and sets the standards & expectations, culturing the mentality in the process.

He's failed on all counts - so the vast majority of our ills on the pitch rightly fall to him. Saying 'he isnt the one missing the chances' is a far, far too simplistic a view.

So it's Moyes fault that Barry missed that sitter?
So the deflected equaliser is Moyes fault?

The above are not simplistic views, they are fact, something which appears to have escaped you totally...

Jeez, think about what you are posting...

 

[tommytowne]

I don't care if there's new owners, I wouldn't trust Everton Football Club as far as I could throw them. I just assume we will make a pigs ear out of it, until it's shown we don't.

Blob on. How can you trust a club that spends our little pot of money on an unproven boy bought as one for the future and an import who to put it bluntly is just plain crap. North of £60m??

 

[Old Blue 2]

He picks the players and dictates tactics. He signs players for €100m - and dumps them on the bench.

Nah, he can take his share of responsibility, alright.

I want him to get through to May - but any notion he can stay on beyond that is for the birds. Right now, he'll do well to get to Christmas.

At the risk of repeating myself, I will do so.
So it's Moyes fault that Barry missed that sitter?
So the deflected equaliser is Moyes fault?

The above are not simplistic views, they are fact, something which appears to have escaped you totally...

Jeez, think about what you are posting...

 

[CielosGrises]

No point getting a new manager unless we can back them with a decent striker , right-back etc.

I'm disappointed that after his initial bounce he has gone a bit West Ham.

Unlike West Ham, let's not pretend a new manager will fix everything.