2025/26 Charly Alcaraz


Here is my biggest problem. If you prefer KDH, you're being weird but you know what okay I'll respect your decision. Why has Charly just kind of been frozen out of the position since winning us the Palace game? He isn't being introduced in the 60th minute at the 10. He is being brought in at the last minute or brought in to play out of position on the right.

Do managers intentionally try to throw players under the bus for an "I told you so?" I genuinely wonder sometimes. The recent NBA sports betting scandal makes me question everything about sports in general. Anything stupid is on the table.
 
Osamabindiesel said:
Here is my biggest problem. If you prefer KDH, you're being weird but you know what okay I'll respect your decision. Why has Charly just kind of been frozen out of the position since winning us the Palace game? He isn't being introduced in the 60th minute at the 10. He is being brought in at the last minute or brought in to play out of position on the right.

Do managers intentionally try to throw players under the bus for an "I told you so?" I genuinely wonder sometimes. The recent NBA sports betting scandal makes me question everything about sports in general. Anything stupid is on the table.
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….i think it’s obvious that KDH offers a lot more on the pitch than Alcaraz. Alcaraz is very poor out of possession, he’s a ball watcher. I was listening to an interview with Cunha who was saying he needs to do a lot more work out of possession as a modern day no10 than he has.

KDH is all over the pitch, basically he’s another CM when we lose possession. He can get behind the opposition back four and make a block on the edge of his own box.

Alcaraz was terrific in that 2nd half against Palace. He turned the game but we were chasing a result. He’s as good a transition player we have, amazed he didn’t make that pass last night because he’s terrific in those situations.

I guess that’s why Moyes and Dyche were/are reluctant to start him.
 
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Eggs said:
….i think it’s obvious that KDH offers a lot more on the pitch than Alcaraz. Alcaraz is very poor out of possession, he’s a ball watcher. I was listening to an interview with Cunha who was saying he needs to do a lot more work out of possession as a modern day no10 than he has.

KDH is all over the pitch, basically he’s another CM when we lose possession. He can get behind the opposition back four and make a block on the edge of his own box.

Alcaraz was terrific in that 2nd half against Palace. He turned the game but we were chasing a result. He’s as good a transition player we have, amazed he didn’t make that pass last night because he’s terrific in those situations.

I guess that’s why Moyes and Dyche were/are reluctant to start him.
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Alcaraz does press well though, I would like to see KDH a bit deeper. We need someone in the middle to control tempo. I wouldn't mind seeing Alcaraz or Rohl in the 10. Something needs to change as we're becoming a bit predictable. Sides know we will try and get the ball to the wings and if they stop that it's pretty much game over. No threat from the centre forward and the midfield is being over run.
 

Gilbert.. said:
Already answered that.
Give him enough game time and he'll blow a few chances but also create and score as well.
Thats the point. He gets criticised very quickly yet when i see him play he's the type who will create things if he's given more than 5 minutes.
Like palace. He was given 45 minutes and he changed the game.
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didn’t answer the question at all, my question was specifically did he blow that chance and the only answer to that question is yes he did! You wanted to be very specific about what I said, and discount everything else!
 
Bluelenny1984 said:
The silence is all I need from you here @Gilbert..

didn’t answer the question at all, my question was specifically did he blow that chance and the only answer to that question is yes he did! You wanted to be very specific about what I said, and discount everything else!
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🤣
I got the tongue in cheek bit about him being crap. It was about him blowing a chance. He came on in the 83rd minute. You meant that. It was acknowledged.

Have a coffee and let it go.
 
Bluelenny1984 said:
Strange one, you @Gilbert.. that Alcaraz crush has got you blinded. He bottled his one big moment. Anyway, good luck pinning those Alcaraz posters up in the big boy room!
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I think you have this twisted.

If a player is absolutely dog dirt, Moyes will use them every single game.

If they deliver (e.g Alcaraz vs Palace) then they may be used out of position and then dropped.

Alcaraz clearly has a good head on his shoulders. He knew that passing or scoring himself would mean getting used wide or dropped again.

He decided to do what KDH does every game...
 
Zatara said:
I think you have this twisted.

If a player is absolutely dog dirt, Moyes will use them every single game.

If they deliver (e.g Alcaraz vs Palace) then they may be used out of position and then dropped.

Alcaraz clearly has a good head on his shoulders. He knew that passing or scoring himself would mean getting used wide or dropped again.

He decided to do what KDH does every game...
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There’s so much wrong with that take it barely deserves a reply.

This has to be post of the year 👏🏻

So now the story is he deliberately fluffed his chance because Moyes wouldn’t use him anyway?

Top-tier agenda gymnastics right there!
 

Eggs said:
….i think it’s obvious that KDH offers a lot more on the pitch than Alcaraz. Alcaraz is very poor out of possession, he’s a ball watcher. I was listening to an interview with Cunha who was saying he needs to do a lot more work out of possession as a modern day no10 than he has.

KDH is all over the pitch, basically he’s another CM when we lose possession. He can get behind the opposition back four and make a block on the edge of his own box.

Alcaraz was terrific in that 2nd half against Palace. He turned the game but we were chasing a result. He’s as good a transition player we have, amazed he didn’t make that pass last night because he’s terrific in those situations.

I guess that’s why Moyes and Dyche were/are reluctant to start him.
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KDH was all over the park doing very little, now I'm not a detractor of KDH but his form last couple of games has dropped off. Alcaraz wasn't given enough time last night, resulting in him trying to do too much in too little time. Eggs imo KDH and Gana could and should have been hooked at half time, I would have brought on Rohl and Alcaraz, KDH has said he's not a 10, he's more an 8. Tim played really well for his cameo last night, our central midfield looked much stronger when he came on and wasn't walked through. Thought Barry done okay apart from that miss first half and was unlucky to be hooked, especially as his replacement Beto did nothing of note.
 
Bluelenny1984 said:
There’s so much wrong with that take it barely deserves a reply.

This has to be post of the year 👏🏻

So now the story is he deliberately fluffed his chance because Moyes wouldn’t use him anyway?

Top-tier agenda gymnastics right there!
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The underlying message is...

Giving younger players a few mins at the end of a game to impress is fine. Then if they impress, give them more time as a sub to integrate them gradually into the team.

When a player comes in and performs well (showing quality, desire and effectiveness) and when your starting player in that position is not delivering...you should be using the player who is more effective during that period of time.

KDH appears to be undroppable while never delivering goals/assists as a 10. When he underperforms or becomes a ghost, he still plays.

Alcaraz delivered for Moyes last season and this season in the 10 role.

He's been treated badly (unfairly) and no matter his performance he is either:

A: Given time out of position
B: Given a few mins at the end of a game

Its shambolic and similar finger pointing can be done for Barry/Beto. Dibling & Aznou (seemingly Rohl to an extent) arent exactly being given a consistent pathway either.

So yes, if Alcaraz watches how ineffective KDH is then surely if he mirrors this he'll get increased game time - see McNeil.
 
Eggs said:
….i think it’s obvious that KDH offers a lot more on the pitch than Alcaraz. Alcaraz is very poor out of possession, he’s a ball watcher. I was listening to an interview with Cunha who was saying he needs to do a lot more work out of possession as a modern day no10 than he has.

KDH is all over the pitch, basically he’s another CM when we lose possession. He can get behind the opposition back four and make a block on the edge of his own box.

Alcaraz was terrific in that 2nd half against Palace. He turned the game but we were chasing a result. He’s as good a transition player we have, amazed he didn’t make that pass last night because he’s terrific in those situations.

I guess that’s why Moyes and Dyche were/are reluctant to start him.
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This is it for me as well, seems obvious.

It’s a frustrating aspect of these types of managers Dyche/Moyes. Remember Dyche’s famous “defensive number 10” speech.

Out of possession they want the 10 to become a midfielder, block passing lanes, drop deep etc.

Moyes isn’t going to change. It’s what he is.
 

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