2025/26 David Moyes

[MikeH72]

They hold him responsible for their death spiral after he took over from Allardyce. He immediately said they were likely in a relegation scrap after his first game of the season and his record as Sunderland manager was appalling, he offered lots of excuses for their capitulation except for self scrutiny.
He’s viewed by the Mackems just like Benitez is here (the sentient Evertonians, not the drivel-spouting loons who occupy this fine forum).

I can think of another former Everton manager who that sounds like as well.

 

[Lanolin]

It might not seem like a significant amount spent compared to other clubs but this transfer window we've reached out highest net spend as a club, so the Friedkins have invested , you might not be content with signings but we've made numerous signings ,it might of been dampened by the fact we had a lot of gaps to fill squad wise, that's not the Friedkins fault.

They have invested but that wasn't really the point in context. People just keep talking about how ambitious they are and how they might sack Moyes at any given moment because they're so determined that only the best is good enough, but really there's very little evidence to back that up. It's obviously entirely possible that it's true, it's just that it isn't actually backed up by anything and is pretty much just a rehashing of exactly the same things people initially said about Moshiri.

 

[jceverton]

They have invested but that wasn't really the point in context. People just keep talking about how ambitious they are and how they might sack Moyes at any given moment because they're so determined that only the best is good enough, but really there's very little evidence to back that up. It's obviously entirely possible that it's true, it's just that it isn't actually backed up by anything and is pretty much just a rehashing of exactly the same things people initially said about Moshiri.

Spot on, I’d say you can even make an argument that the evidence points the other way. I think appointing Moyes and let him dictate his terms over the DOF role etc look pretty unambitious to me.

 

[Vaughan]

They hold him responsible for their death spiral after he took over from Allardyce. He immediately said they were likely in a relegation scrap after his first game of the season and his record as Sunderland manager was appalling, he offered lots of excuses for their capitulation except for self scrutiny.
He’s viewed by the Mackems just like Benitez is here (the sentient Evertonians, not the drivel-spouting loons who occupy this fine forum).

to be fair he signed a load of really old and past it everton players

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

to be fair he signed a load of really old and past it everton players

Because they had no money.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

They have invested but that wasn't really the point in context. People just keep talking about how ambitious they are and how they might sack Moyes at any given moment because they're so determined that only the best is good enough, but really there's very little evidence to back that up. It's obviously entirely possible that it's true, it's just that it isn't actually backed up by anything and is pretty much just a rehashing of exactly the same things people initially said about Moshiri.

You have to look at the cost of investment being “ambitious” would require. At the moment most people would accept being competitive and coining in the massive income from the Premiee League.

 

[Curtis]

They have invested but that wasn't really the point in context. People just keep talking about how ambitious they are and how they might sack Moyes at any given moment because they're so determined that only the best is good enough, but really there's very little evidence to back that up. It's obviously entirely possible that it's true, it's just that it isn't actually backed up by anything and is pretty much just a rehashing of exactly the same things people initially said about Moshiri.

There is evidence of the Friedkins being ruthless in regards operating Roma where they even sacked Mourinho and then a club legend after just a couple underwhelming games last season. You can say that it's still unknown that they'll apply that approach here but It doesn't make sense to be results driven at one club and not at another especially when theirs more financial benefits and clout at stake.

 

[Clarky cat]

to be fair he signed a load of really old and past it everton players

Blew 13m on a bloke called Ndong, 5m on Paddy McNair and another milli on a fella called Donald Love…

Here is the list of shame, 2 of them were sacked for unprofessional conduct…

David Moyes made 13 signings as Sunderland manager - it was an absolute disaster

Oh dear, David Moyes

www.givemesport.com

Terrible use of funds, no wonder the Mackems have anger towards him.

@JobForTheMoyes , hardly “no money spent”, just a criminal waste of what they did spend on some absolutely shocking or finished players

 

[Bedfordblue]

Because they had no money.

No that old chestnut again

 

[Drico]

There is evidence of the Friedkins being ruthless in regards operating Roma where they even sacked Mourinho and then a club legend after just a couple underwhelming games last season. You can say that it's still unknown that they'll apply that approach here but It doesn't make sense to be results driven at one club and not at another especially when theirs more financial benefits and clout at stake.

Only if you assume they hold Everton and Roma in equal esteem.

That's not a given in some parts around here...

 

[Rita_Poon]

pickford
garner o'brien keane mykolenko
n'diaye rohl dewsbury-hall grealish
alcaraz
beto
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need a change, need some new ideas, need a bit more support for ili, it's going to be a real arm wrestle in midfield, they're all action and endeavour.

 

[DL100]

I really don't get everyone's issue with Moyes.

He has been brought in to stabalise us and then possibly move into a more strategic role next year.

He isn't a long term fix as our manager and no doubt a new manager will be brought in this summer.

I get we havent been great lately but we havent been awful either. The Spurs result was a bit of a freak one.

 

[Curtis]

Only if you assume they hold Everton and Roma in equal esteem.

That's not a given in some parts around here...

You mean certain posters like an infamous orange kooky contrarian? I understand people would have that notion initially, but they just recently purchased our club and it takes time to develop an ambitious project. Also something a lot of people were not considering was that Moyes being involved in the transfer process , hinders a larger and more radical squad transformation. As you're firmly aware Moyes is a very meticulous and pragmatic individual who is caution first, he was never going to sanction a major overhaul than what was immediately required in his head. It appeared that he felt we needed additional defensive reinforcements but never seemed that focused on the fullback aspects.

So back to the Friedkins, I think the aim is a long term gradual evolution of the club and squad over an instant revolution. Which is probably the least turbulent approach.

 

[Curtis]

I really don't get everyone's issue with Moyes.

He has been brought in to stabalise us and then possibly move into a more strategic role next year.

He isn't a long term fix as our manager and no doubt a new manager will be brought in this summer.

I get we havent been great lately but we havent been awful either. The Spurs result was a bit of a freak one.

My main gripe is his obstinance and being so risk adverse it actually becomes counter productive. He has proven in the past he can be a capable Manager ,but when things are not jibing he seems resistent to finding a solution rather hoping the situation resolves on its own volition

 

[Drico]

You mean certain posters like an infamous orange kooky contrarian? I understand people would have that notion initially, but they just recently purchased our club and it takes time to develop an ambitious project. Also something a lot of people were not considering was that Moyes being involved in the transfer process , hinders a larger and more radical squad transformation. As you're firmly aware Moyes is a very meticulous and pragmatic individual who is caution first, he was never going to sanction a major overhaul than what was immediately required in his head. It appeared that he felt we needed additional defensive reinforcements but never seemed that focused on the fullback aspects.

So back to the Friedkins, I think it's a long term evolution over an instant revolution

That's fair enough, but we still don't have evidence that they are truly ambitious. They've stabilised the club's finances - for which we should all be eternally grateful - but beyond that? Even allowing for Moyes's dithering in the summer, it was THEY - not him - who were unprepared. He was in situ but they spent the summer getting their appointments hired. They were still at that until very recently. Lack of planning does not suggest we were a priority. Let's be generous and say it was unavoidable. Even then where was the ambition? The window was not particularly ambitious. How could it be when we couldn't even source a right back? Grealish on loan? Ambition? Perhaps. The Branthwaite extension was more ambitious. Unfortunately, they've been unlucky in the short term there.

I'd say they have been positive owners to now. They've steadied a listing ship. But ambition? Jury remains out for now.