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The Sopranos yes, and that was similarly a crappier first series; which is what I've had in mind while slogging through these first The Wire episodes. Breaking Bad I watched all of, but don't remember that being a very slow starter.

So, what ?
It takes a while to get a feel for a series and the roots of the characters and their situations to settle in. It's not all crash bang wallop. I have a confession, I watched series 1 & 2 of BB and gave up, I've since been chastised for getting to the good stuff and not letting it get going. Since, I've had a lot of 'Better call Saul' shouts and isn't it great etc. I think I'm just getting old.
 
I reckon if you’re not into it after season one, you’re not going to really like it. Season 2 is on the docks with some new faces and is one of my favourites.

A lot of the characters are based on real life people and incidents.
I think I’ve said this on here before but initially I really didn’t like season 2. But having now rewatched it all about 10 times it’s probably my favourite.

I think the issue on first watching was it moved away from the corners and the gangs a lot so felt a bit weird. But when watched as a whole you can appreciate how good it is.

Season 5 is bad though. It’s still one of my favourite shows ever but it was a disappointing end.
 
It takes a while to get a feel for a series and the roots of the characters and their situations to settle in. It's not all crash bang wallop. I have a confession, I watched series 1 & 2 of BB and gave up, I've since been chastised for getting to the good stuff and not letting it get going. Since, I've had a lot of 'Better call Saul' shouts and isn't it great etc. I think I'm just getting old.

I reckon if you’re not into it after season one, you’re not going to really like it. Season 2 is on the docks with some new faces and is one of my favourites.

A lot of the characters are based on real life people and incidents.
OK fair shouts, thanks for the responses. I'll give a couple of examples:

Stringer Bell: In one episode, he shows an almost uncanny perception for knowing that one of the lower level drug dealers is using a mobile phone (when he shouldn't be); this is behind Bell's back and some distance away. Yet the same Stringer Bell character has zero awareness of McNulty's 2 kids rather blatanly and obviously following him - in front and behind - when he leaves a food market in order to eventually get his number plate.

McNulty tails Bell to a city college, he doesn't want him to know he's tailing him. Does he not get in the same elevator to locate which floor he's on? The camera conveniently leaves out that part.

Some cops trying to move a heavy desk through a doorway, they enlist more and more cops but it still won't budge. Ultimately it turns out one is trying to push the desk in while the others are it pushing out. šŸ˜‚You couldn't write this sh!t; well unfortunately someone did.

I like a good police procedural, but this is so heavy on the "pen-pushers down at City Hall" - "goddamn district attorney is gonna have my ass" - it's untrue.

I'll get to the end of season 1 and then decide. Thanks all.
 

OK fair shouts, thanks for the responses. I'll give a couple of examples:

Stringer Bell: In one episode, he shows an almost uncanny perception for knowing that one of the lower level drug dealers is using a mobile phone (when he shouldn't be); this is behind Bell's back and some distance away. Yet the same Stringer Bell character has zero awareness of McNulty's 2 kids rather blatantly and obviously following him - in front and behind - when he leaves a food market in order to eventually get his number plate.

McNulty tails Bell to a city college, he doesn't want him to know he's tailing him. Does he not get in the same elevator to locate which floor he's on? The camera conveniently leaves out that part.

Some cops trying to move a heavy desk through a doorway, they enlist more and more cops but it still won't budge. Ultimately it turns out one is trying to push the desk in while the others are it pushing out. šŸ˜‚You couldn't write this sh!t; well unfortunately someone did.

I like a good police procedural, but this is so heavy on the "pen-pushers down at City Hall" - "goddamn district attorney is gonna have my ass" - it's untrue.

I'll get to the end of season 1 and then decide. Thanks all.
If you're going to nitpick such minor details, then there's some whoppers that'll probably really annoy you. I'm guessing you've watched 'hill street blues' and 'nypd blue', the wire isn't a procedural, it's more a study of different layers of society and the struggle for survival within and because of corruption and the relentless misery and pain broken lives and broken systems cause. The show allows us to see where these layers interlap and cross paths and worse.

There's at least a couple of world stopping whoppers! At the time and probably to now the diversity of the show, the broad landscape studied is what set and sets it apart from it's contemporaries. It's not in any way a show focused solely on the cops.
 
If you're going to nitpick such minor details, then there's some whoppers that'll probably really annoy you. I'm guessing you've watched 'hill street blues' and 'nypd blue', the wire isn't a procedural, it's more a study of different layers of society and the struggle for survival within and because of corruption and the relentless misery and pain broken lives and broken systems cause. The show allows us to see where these layers interlap and cross paths and worse.

There's at least a couple of world stopping whoppers! At the time and probably to now the diversity of the show, the broad landscape studied is what set and sets it apart from it's contemporaries. It's not in any way a show focused solely on the cops.
Really? OK, I'm not getting that from it like but as I say, I'm not quite one season in yet.
 
Really? OK, I'm not getting that from it like but as I say, I'm not quite one season in yet.
I think coming into most shows that are from quite a long time back and also really hyped is difficult.

For example I’ve tried to start The Sopranos quite a few times and just can’t get on with it. Had the same thing with Breaking Bad but did carry on with that and finish it. Thought the last series was not good at all by the way.

But if you’ve been told and heard over and over again that something is amazing it can be hard for it then to live up to that.
 
I think coming into most shows that are from quite a long time back and also really hyped is difficult.

For example I’ve tried to start The Sopranos quite a few times and just can’t get on with it. Had the same thing with Breaking Bad but did carry on with that and finish it. Thought the last series was not good at all by the way.

But if you’ve been told and heard over and over again that something is amazing it can be hard for it then to live up to that.
It really is, so very very funny, caustic even.
 
I think coming into most shows that are from quite a long time back and also really hyped is difficult.

For example I’ve tried to start The Sopranos quite a few times and just can’t get on with it. Had the same thing with Breaking Bad but did carry on with that and finish it. Thought the last series was not good at all by the way.

But if you’ve been told and heard over and over again that something is amazing it can be hard for it then to live up to that.
Well yeah, as I mentioned earlier the very first season of The Sopranos is an outlier against the later ones.Just listen to Tony's over the top lisping knucklehead accent which inexplicably gets dropped from season 2 onwards.

Maybe I left The Wire a little too long, not giving up yet though.
 

I think coming into most shows that are from quite a long time back and also really hyped is difficult.

For example I’ve tried to start The Sopranos quite a few times and just can’t get on with it. Had the same thing with Breaking Bad but did carry on with that and finish it. Thought the last series was not good at all by the way.

But if you’ve been told and heard over and over again that something is amazing it can be hard for it then to live up to that.
Totally what you've just explained m8, you prob need to see them at that time to really appreciate them.
 
Totally what you've just explained m8, you prob need to see them at that time to really appreciate them.
That is fair, something about the relevance and the communal nature of sharing the experience of what you'd seen. There's a babes of Soprano's thread somewhere (out there) that got some traction.
 

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