2025/26 David Moyes

[Del-boy]

No whipping boys up from the Championship this year.
Atm thank god for west ham and wolves.
Though im worried now just how we managed to make the atrocious west ham look ok.

Only a matter of time before they get their act together. Same with Forrest. Sunderland is a must win.

 

[Curtis]

Right now for me , Moyes is predictable to play against as Martinez after his first season

 

[windymiller]

How many more years are we just going to write off?

Is there a number bigger than infinity?

 

[Curtis]

I like Jack, he seems a great lad but he slows the team down and tbh I hope we don't sign him on a permanent deal. We should be using him this year as a mentor for Dibling then let him go and Tyler step up.

He kept getting double or triple teamed on the wing , instead of taking advantage of Jack pulling coverage away we kept putting him in blind alleys

 

[ToffeeTim]

I like Jack, he seems a great lad but he slows the team down and tbh I hope we don't sign him on a permanent deal. We should be using him this year as a mentor for Dibling then let him go and Tyler step up.

Grealish is great. The problem is that we needed that really fast player to play alongside him. Spending 40m on Dibling was a totally wrong decision and didn't make much sense. Especially since we haven't even used him.

 

[windymiller]

We have been culled by PSR within an inch of our lives. The others merrily spent for years. Its 1 window..and I hate it too.

I admit the Barry transfer seems to have screwed us but other teams are allowed to make errors..and I wish we had Bmouth recruitment

Or Brentford. Or Bournemouth. Any of the B clubs.

 

[Simon Buttle]

It was an inexplicable mistake and showed he's not the right manager to move the team forward. It's a decision that wrecks a season and that's not an exaggeration. He should have been sacked after that game if the club had any standards.

We won't get our season on track unless we try to do things differently. This system with this 11 doesn't work. And if we are going to defend badly and be bullied at set plays then we have no chance.

We are crying out for a proper set piece coach imo, I watched the Villa game today and that first goal they scored from the corner City players were just looking around at each other like WTF? as Cash stepped in on his weaker foot, then the camera panned to the bench and their SP coach is grinning away to himself.

 

[pedro789]

We needed the spending too have had blend in mind.

We just look like an easily contained collection of slow paced ball players.

We need pace all over this team.

You're right about pace, we just can't get up the pitch quick enough.

We don't really have a press so very rarely win the ball high up the pitch.

Or when we do win it back, teams have got themselves set again by the time we're in final third.

Never really see a midfield running past striker, breaking the lines.

Moyes rule #1. Never get caught ahead of the ball.

 

[Simon Buttle]

You're right about pace, we just can't get up the pitch quick enough.

We don't really have a press so very rarely win the ball high up the pitch.

Or when we do win it back, teams have got themselves set again by the time we're in final third.

Never really see a midfield running past striker, breaking the lines.

Moyes rule #1. Never get caught ahead of the ball.

We have a player in Alcaraz who can do that but Moyes won't play him

 

[Curtis]

Also I love that we kinda press when we feel like it , but if you're going to press it has to be sustained for more than a minute

 

[pedro789]

We have a player in Alcaraz who can do that but Moyes won't play him

See previous posts.

 

[bicycleheader]

See above Dave, how many managers have we gone through since 2016? At some point we need to heed panic and not call for heads after every defeat or the club will never heal

Well after all that mess of managers, you don’t heal a club by hiring a manager a load of fans either straight up don’t like or at best will have little patience for them. I understood it for the relegation scrap but beyond that no. If they make a reasonable appointment for the next guy I will totally agree with you, we will need to give it plenty time. Until such time as he goes tho, this is how it’s going to be.

 

[larrygobfiend]

I don’t think there was too much wrong today apart from the set pieces. It was one of those weird, frustrating games.

 

[davek]

You're right about pace, we just can't get up the pitch quick enough.

We don't really have a press so very rarely win the ball high up the pitch.

Or when we do win it back, teams have got themselves set again by the time we're in final third.

Never really see a midfield running past striker, breaking the lines.

Moyes rule #1. Never get caught ahead of the ball.

We did a great job of that in the Brighton home game until Brighton started to knock it about. But not many others outside of the elite clubs can do that.

The press can be engaged for short periods too and then sit off and recover and go again.

But Moyes just wants to win the ball in our half and shovel it out to Grealish-Ndiaye - and it comes right back from there.

 

[Clarky cat]

If you don't take your chances you invite pressure, when you succumb to pressure you concede, once you are behind you are chasing, when you are chasing you can be picked off much easier (goal 3).

Confidence in front of goal is zero, (although I tip my hat to Beto for the bicycle kick attempt) and that is accepted throughout the side and the stands.

Other sides feed off our anxiety and profligacy. The blend in the middle is stark, we aint getting it right.

Gana without Doucoure is a good right cross (boxing lingo) without the solid left jab that sets it up. He doesn't have the tools to be a foil in CM with the other players we have currently.

I've been Gana's biggest fan and have championed him for years, so this isn't exactly easy, he needs dropped. Get Hall and Garner as the two in front of the defence, get Alcaraz in AM and get that be the option which frees Beto. Sides doubling up on Grealish and Ili provides space, with Alcaraz buzzing about he has to be picked up or he's an easy pass, this then lets Beto play on the shoulder of whoever is the last man.
We have the quality to make chances from midfield, but we are not trying to make the right ones for the strikers we have, further, if we can try to expose a side we can then move the ball into a foot race contest quicker than we are.
Currently we are to easily condensed and slowed down. Everything in CM seems to be done via committee. Something new has to be tried. Why play Alcaraz so often last season only to use him much less this? Rohl provided glimpses of a player today, is it Garner to RB and him to partner Hall?

I hope Moyes alleged stubbornness has been overcome and he's prepared to shift his focus, this is now a few games where no plan an and no plan b have been telling.

This was always the biggest issue with employing Moyes for a second stint, everyone has seen him at his best and worst already. It’s all very familiar and I don’t know many men in their 60’s that suddenly embrace a complete turnaround in mindset.