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We need to talk about Nottingham Forest.

Final position

  • Top 4

    Votes: 21 8.2%

  • Other European Qualification

    Votes: 68 26.6%

  • Top 10 outside Europe

    Votes: 47 18.4%

  • Complete capitulation bottom half.

    Votes: 120 46.9%
  • Total voters
    256
Personally think that Dyche should be applauded for how he handled certain situations at Everton. He should be thanked for keeping us up when other managers might have wilted in the face of points deductions, etc.

However, his faults outweighed his positives, in the end. As I mentioned earlier in the thread he had no plan B and you can tell from the way a few players reacted after he left, that plan A was most definitely not working and was never going to work. Within 2 games, and even during the Villa game, the change in style was obvious and it showed that Dyche could have been better here, if only he adjusted the stance slightly. All it took was a tweak to say full backs are allowed to attack and to have a more fluid attacking midfield unit.

I hold no grudges with him, it is just that I don't necessarily like to see one trick pony managers. That is what I see him as.
 

wandyr79 said:
Personally think that Dyche should be applauded for how he handled certain situations at Everton. He should be thanked for keeping us up when other managers might have wilted in the face of points deductions, etc.

However, his faults outweighed his positives, in the end. As I mentioned earlier in the thread he had no plan B and you can tell from the way a few players reacted after he left, that plan A was most definitely not working and was never going to work. Within 2 games, and even during the Villa game, the change in style was obvious and it showed that Dyche could have been better here, if only he adjusted the stance slightly. All it took was a tweak to say full backs are allowed to attack and to have a more fluid attacking midfield unit.

I hold no grudges with him, it is just that I don't necessarily like to see one trick pony managers. That is what I see him as.
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Did they though? The positive for me was he kept us up from the position we were in in Jan 23, and the navigated two points deductions, all on a spend to profit transfer policy which saw us into new ownership as a Pl club.

What negative could possibly outweigh that? He literally secured the future of this club. If we’d have brought in a Potter Marsch Rodgers type who left us wide open we could have very easily gone down in 23 and then it was bye bye takeover, stadium not being finished or leased when it was, every first team player out the door, instant administration and points deduction to start the championship, more points deductions down the line. The cash position in the club was so bad we might not have even been able to pay wages.

Him playing some dull football and saying stuff some people don’t like in press conferences does not outweigh any of that.
 

wandyr79 said:
Personally think that Dyche should be applauded for how he handled certain situations at Everton. He should be thanked for keeping us up when other managers might have wilted in the face of points deductions, etc.

However, his faults outweighed his positives, in the end. As I mentioned earlier in the thread he had no plan B and you can tell from the way a few players reacted after he left, that plan A was most definitely not working and was never going to work. Within 2 games, and even during the Villa game, the change in style was obvious and it showed that Dyche could have been better here, if only he adjusted the stance slightly. All it took was a tweak to say full backs are allowed to attack and to have a more fluid attacking midfield unit.

I hold no grudges with him, it is just that I don't necessarily like to see one trick pony managers. That is what I see him as.
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It's a difficult one with Dyche for me. I think he definitely got stale by the end, and really didn't help himself with his attitude towards the club/fans. But he guided us through an incredibly difficult 18 months or so before that, and I think a lot of better/more successful managers would've struggled to do that.

I would say I respect him for the job he did, even if I don't particularly like him.

I absolutely don't see it working out long term at Notts Forest though. At best he gets the season like big Sam got with us.
 

wandyr79 said:
Personally think that Dyche should be applauded for how he handled certain situations at Everton. He should be thanked for keeping us up when other managers might have wilted in the face of points deductions, etc.

However, his faults outweighed his positives, in the end. As I mentioned earlier in the thread he had no plan B and you can tell from the way a few players reacted after he left, that plan A was most definitely not working and was never going to work. Within 2 games, and even during the Villa game, the change in style was obvious and it showed that Dyche could have been better here, if only he adjusted the stance slightly. All it took was a tweak to say full backs are allowed to attack and to have a more fluid attacking midfield unit.

I hold no grudges with him, it is just that I don't necessarily like to see one trick pony managers. That is what I see him as.
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He was the perfect manager to see out the Moshiri years.

Once they were over, however, his time was up.
 

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