2025/26 David Moyes

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bicycleheader said:
I didn’t say real split, however you want to define it. It’s a split whether you think it’s small or big

You’ve also got a contradictory point in there, saying you opposed Benitez but gave him a fair chance but then a moment later assuming that me not waiting Moyes means I won’t give him a fair chance.

I think you just haven’t read my post clearly. I actually said I was happy with last season and think he has done okay this season. As such, giving him a fair chance.

For me at least the September poll showing a slim majority wanted to give him the season and then see, reflects a large part of the fanbase that would be much closer to turning on him than you’d like. Not sure how you’d read it. I’d definitely not say there’s a majority happy to give him his two years.
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Nope, it's not a split. There's tens of thousands of 'silent' evertonians, many of whom go the game, who simply don't scream and shout on a forum every time we don;t get the result they think we should. As always, those with a negative agenda to push make themselves louder.

It's not contradictory, I opposed Benitez, but largely stayed silent on the matter. I posted a few things on here during that period, but was hardly his biggest supporter, nor a massive critic.

You do realise that the "slim majority" of supporters of Moyes on an internet forum, where everybody is posting anomymously is not a true reflection of match going evertonians, yeah?
 

I'm by no means a Moyes fan, but the reports of our fringe players from a 5-1 defeat to Bradford are indicative that our recruitment is still very poor. Whilst we are in that situation a manager like Moyes who can organise a team and capitalise on the disorganisation of others is imperative. If we ever get our act together and buy some better players we can move on to a more progressive manager, but in our current circumstances he's probably the best man for the job.
 
John from Bootle said:
Nope, it's not a split. There's tens of thousands of 'silent' evertonians, many of whom go the game, who simply don't scream and shout on a forum every time we don;t get the result they think we should. As always, those with a negative agenda to push make themselves louder.

It's not contradictory, I opposed Benitez, but largely stayed silent on the matter. I posted a few things on here during that period, but was hardly his biggest supporter, nor a massive critic.

You do realise that the "slim majority" of supporters of Moyes on an internet forum, where everybody is posting anomymously is not a true reflection of match going evertonians, yeah?
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"Scream and shout" "agenda"

I don't think any of my points or how they are made equate to either of those things. It's football we all have different preferences and opinions to some degree. I don't like a Moyes type approach, some people do.

Neither can say what 50,000 people think and I don't think anybody, other than a couple on here, are losing the head with Moyes or asking for a change so naturally I wouldn't expect that at the game.

However I hope we can agree a relatively large portion of the fan base would either have been getting sick of him in his first spell and grumbled about the poor spells, poor footy or poor record against bigger teams and in cups AND/OR didn't like how he left and handled himself afterwards. So my take is that a lot of those fans will not be Moyes supporters now. Some will still have no time for him (small portion it seems) but more will be happy with what he has done since he came back but will have no real emotional attachment to him staying on beyond the summer and will also be more prone to complaining when things like the League Cup exit happen. That's something that can build easily if we hit bad form. But so long as Moyes is avoiding long spells of poor form he will keep the majority onside. I myself would be happy with a change at any point if the appointment was right, but also will not be screaming and shouting if they decide to stick with him next season.

However I do think that those who are big Moyes fans and are excited at his return, who are not a majority, are struggling to accept that others are not that bothered and are going a bit overboard on here handling a bit of criticism of their manager. It's gonna go round in circles until he is gone
 
He shouldn't ever be forgiven for actively aiding our elimination from the LC against Wolves.

That was just sheer arrogance born of a clear contempt for fans' wishes to grasp a great opportunity to progress in that competition.

That's what he is. That's how he rolls.

It informs all his decision making - including not giving a flying one what it looks like that he employs half his family at the club's (i.e. fans') expense.
 

hallamblue said:
I'm by no means a Moyes fan, but the reports of our fringe players from a 5-1 defeat to Bradford are indicative that our recruitment is still very poor. Whilst we are in that situation a manager like Moyes who can organise a team and capitalise on the disorganisation of others is imperative. If we ever get our act together and buy some better players we can move on to a more progressive manager, but in our current circumstances he's probably the best man for the job.
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Patterson and Aznou as fullbacks waiting in the wings is scary stuff. And we forked out £25m for the pair.
People can chew the arse off it as much as they like. We've stunk the place out recruiting in this position since possibly lucas digne.
 
hallamblue said:
I'm by no means a Moyes fan, but the reports of our fringe players from a 5-1 defeat to Bradford are indicative that our recruitment is still very poor. Whilst we are in that situation a manager like Moyes who can organise a team and capitalise on the disorganisation of others is imperative. If we ever get our act together and buy some better players we can move on to a more progressive manager, but in our current circumstances he's probably the best man for the job.
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It's not always about recruitment though, you have to work on the development of players and the team as a whole on the training ground, how much of that stuff do we actually do? I find our backroom team fairly uninspiring and tbh I think it lacks in certain areas. It's reflected in the fact that our main game plan is give the ball to Grealish and hope for the best. The City game will be very interesting for me as of course its no Grealish, will he bottle it and sit back? or will he bite the bullet and play an Alcaraz and try and put something on what is an unpredictable City backline. We do still need a few players no doubt but its also an easy excuse to use at times. We currently have a number of players playing out of position when really only 1 probably needs too (OB) that's not good organisation imo. The 2 strikers we have, whilst neither are world beaters we might get a bit more from them if we actually played to what their skillsets are, that's not good organisation/in game management imo. I just don't always think its about recruitment that's all.
 
I don't expect Moyes to win at Man city , even though man city have a superior squad to us they have looked more vulnerable than they have during previous seasons . Brighton were able to beat them on the break , I feel like we can half a chance to win if we actually go at them a little like we played Liverpool in the second half , if we opt to just sit back like we did in the first half at Liverpool we'll likely struggle. City don't like to be pressed if you give them to much time with the ball they'll comfortably dispatch us. I just want moyes to try to win the match instead of damage mitigation.
 

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