2025/26 Tyler Dibling

[rochdaleblue]

….to critique a player does not mean you are ‘writing them off’. Nobody expects Dibling to be the finished article but you want to be seeing signs that the lad is the ‘special talent’ we’re wanting him to be.

For me, he looks wonderfully balanced and composed in possession of a football but I’ve found his performances a little disappointing, particularly in going beyond defenders and creating threat.

It’s an observation not a conclusion and surely it’s fine to have such an assessment.

He does look good on the ball and composed like you’ve said. What’s disappointed most in the fleeting glimpses we’ve seen of him and his unwillingness to run and players and make things happen. Maybe he’s adopting a safety first approach while he settles into the team and Club or maybe it’s following the orders of Moyes.

 

[Caolam]

Having played football for far too long and at a level way below what the 19 year old Tyler is playing at the moment I feel that he has to be given a chance. In all that I have seen or read about him is that he is comfortable on the all. I don’t think that can be coached, that is talent, the rest is coaching. Would I have paid £40 million, no but we have so it is time to get behind the kid. This is the future, embrace it.

 

[Lanolin]

In short, you wanted to include Tom Davies? And argue that Barkley didn’t come through with Moyes.
it’s hardly shifted the argument

Well no, as I have already said (and the post you've quoted says in plain English) the original response was working on the basis that you were seemingly not only talking about players from the academy, but also young players we had brought in. That shifts the argument massively, but no doubt now you're going to pretend you weren't doing that, despite the conversation being about a player we brought in. The second bit was just pointing out that even if that was what you were doing, it still wouldn't be true. Davies should certainly count, he played about 150 games and captained the side on occasion, you can't claim he didn't become a first teamer. Barkley's a matter of opinion, he made his debut under Moyes and played sporadically but I think the general consensus would be that his breakthrough season was the one after Moyes had left.

 

[maccavennie]

Hopefully get some minutes playing for England tonight.

 

[Swartzy]

Hopefully get some minutes playing for England tonight.

Is the game showing on any platform

 

[maccavennie]

Is the game showing on any platform

Not sure mate. Probably on BBC 68 digital i player signal from the moon.

 

[Swartzy]

Not sure mate. Probably on BBC 68 digital i player signal from the moon.

England YouTube

( not sure if its some paid membership or not )

 

[Nymzee]

 

[Blast_of_Cannock]

68 minutes for Tyler, good match sharpness for when he gets back.

 

[rochdaleblue]

Thought he did well. There was a willingness as to run at their defence. Fouled a number of times to win free kicks in dangerous situations. Thought he did well, but to be honest they were so poor, it’s hard to judge.

 

[Eggs]

 

[Swartzy]

He's got all the natural ability, it's just the little things that need working on.
Knowing when and when not to try certain things, getting a haircut, so he can free his arms..

Looked good tho, came inside alot more. But like previously said that was a poor team..

 

[twoblue]

Well no, as I have already said (and the post you've quoted says in plain English) the original response was working on the basis that you were seemingly not only talking about players from the academy, but also young players we had brought in. That shifts the argument massively, but no doubt now you're going to pretend you weren't doing that, despite the conversation being about a player we brought in. The second bit was just pointing out that even if that was what you were doing, it still wouldn't be true. Davies should certainly count, he played about 150 games and captained the side on occasion, you can't claim he didn't become a first teamer. Barkley's a matter of opinion, he made his debut under Moyes and played sporadically but I think the general consensus would be that his breakthrough season was the one after Moyes had left.

My point, was I’m not sure we have have had much success with with young players in general since Moyes first time. Whether that’s players purchased (exception branthwaite, Dcl, O’Brien, and Richarlison)…
I pointed out Anthony Gordon’s the only player to come through, the academy. You can include Davies. Semantics about Barkley doesn’t shift the needle really.

It’s still not a huge sucess rate.

Just Wonder if we should be looking at the club behind the scene, and whether more can be done to support young players. I would say are sucess rate is low for “established” premier league clubs.

Clubs like Vila and Newcastle have been our comparbles:

Over the same period - Villa have bought through Grealish, Jacob Ramsey, Archer, Aaron Ramsey, Chukwuemeka through, and purchased u21 players Kellyman , Luiz, Konsa, Rogers and Bogarde. All have impacted the first team squad or sold for 20m+

Newcastle have produced Sean Longstaff, Elliot Anderson, and Lewis Miley from their academy, with U21 signings like Tino Livramento, Lewis Hall, and Yankuba Minteh. All have either become key members of the first-team squad or generated significant profit, with Minteh and Anderson alone bringing in more than £60 million last year.

Just saying we should be doing better. It’s hard to argue against that.

We have a new stadium and regime, so let’s hope this is something that is changing. Let’s hope dibbling is first of these new style signings.

 

[Charlie Sweet]

He does look good on the ball and composed like you’ve said. What’s disappointed most in the fleeting glimpses we’ve seen of him and his unwillingness to run and players and make things happen. Maybe he’s adopting a safety first approach while he settles into the team and Club or maybe it’s following the orders of Moyes.

Having played football for far too long and at a level way below what the 19 year old Tyler is playing at the moment I feel that he has to be given a chance. In all that I have seen or read about him is that he is comfortable on the all. I don’t think that can be coached, that is talent, the rest is coaching. Would I have paid £40 million, no but we have so it is time to get behind the kid. This is the future, embrace it.

Agree completely. We have a player now with lots of obvious potential. He needs minutes

 

[Lanolin]

My point, was I’m not sure we have have had much success with with young players in general since Moyes first time. Whether that’s players purchased (exception branthwaite, Dcl, O’Brien, and Richarlison)…
I pointed out Anthony Gordon’s the only player to come through, the academy. You can include Davies. Semantics about Barkley doesn’t shift the needle really.

It’s still not a huge sucess rate.

Just Wonder if we should be looking at the club behind the scene, and whether more can be done to support young players. I would say are sucess rate is low for “established” premier league clubs.

Clubs like Vila and Newcastle have been our comparbles:

Over the same period - Villa have bought through Grealish, Jacob Ramsey, Archer, Aaron Ramsey, Chukwuemeka through, and purchased u21 players Kellyman , Luiz, Konsa, Rogers and Bogarde. All have impacted the first team squad or sold for 20m+

Newcastle have produced Sean Longstaff, Elliot Anderson, and Lewis Miley from their academy, with U21 signings like Tino Livramento, Lewis Hall, and Yankuba Minteh. All have either become key members of the first-team squad or generated significant profit, with Minteh and Anderson alone bringing in more than £60 million last year.

Just saying we should be doing better. It’s hard to argue against that.

We have a new stadium and regime, so let’s hope this is something that is changing. Let’s hope dibbling is first of these new style signings.

Yes and my point is that ignores loads of young players who’ve been successes.

Again, stones didn’t play a single game under Moyes so he came through after Moyes, that isn’t semantics it’s just a fact. Lukaku was an absolutely massive success, deulofeu, mccarthy, onana etc were successes, holgate was bought as an 18 year old from league one and went on to play 150 games, that’s a success by any reasonable definition. How can players like Cameron archer and omari kellyman count but Ellis simms and Tom cannon don’t?

It’s just a complete nonsense of a post because you’re doing exactly what I said people always do with this a page or so back, changing the parameters and fudging the facts to try and make it sound like a good point.