Barry Vs Beto

Who would you rather start?

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Think this thread is a good one. Hope it stays. Those either with a positive OR negative view of our two main strikers, remember where roughly your pages are for later in the season, to see if your opinions are the same around our results. Got a feeling this topic won't go away for a while.
 
Lanolin said:
Why do we not have time? What are you expecting to happen this season that means we don’t have time, I don’t really understand that viewpoint at all.
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Not to sound like Sean Dyche, but when we signed Lukaku he had already scored a few for West Brom. I just think our lack of decent striker has cost us in recent years. In home games when our midfielders push up, it doesn't matter so much. But in certain games such as derby, we need somebody who only needs once chance to score. Lukaku a few years ago scored our only chance at City and we came away with draw. I don't think it's about breaking bank, James Vaughan rarely missed chances, Cahill got goals, when we had been poor in a game. I think we are sound everywhere else on pitch, with a half decent striker I think we would comfortably get into Europe. Moyes is great a getting bargains, hopefully he can get someone in January.
 
Unfortunately we need to persist with varying permutations of the two. Barry needs time to adapt and Beto is ...well Beto. I do think a goal would help Barry so hope he can grab one sooner rather than later.
 

For me, at the moment they are both showing nothing but I would start Barry above Beto for the simple reason Beto has shown nothing for longer and as such may, and it’s a big may, come good.
 
Barry leads the line and links up play far far better than Beto. Anything in to Beto rarely sticks. Barry should be getting a consistent run of games. You’re not going to get used to the Premier League if you’re not playing consistently it’s as simple as that.
 
jazzy said:
It's reached the stage where I'd try N'dayie as a false 9 to get Dibling on the pitch.

Might not work but Beto and Barry aren't up to it at the moment ( if we are going to persevere with a traditional CF it's got to be Barry).

It's what a progressive coach would try. Moyes won't
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I'm not so sure about that, he did it at West Ham with Bowen.
 
Definitely would be starting Barry against Wolves on Tuesday.... would also be giving Dibling and Rohl a start (if the latter is fit).

Perfect opportunity to give these players the opportunity whilst not affecting the quality of the side too much!

We need to beat Wolves and give ourselves the opportunity of a good cup run... albeit we will end up with the RS or City in the next round.
 

JelavicBrate2 said:
Not to sound like Sean Dyche, but when we signed Lukaku he had already scored a few for West Brom. I just think our lack of decent striker has cost us in recent years. In home games when our midfielders push up, it doesn't matter so much. But in certain games such as derby, we need somebody who only needs once chance to score. Lukaku a few years ago scored our only chance at City and we came away with draw. I don't think it's about breaking bank, James Vaughan rarely missed chances, Cahill got goals, when we had been poor in a game. I think we are sound everywhere else on pitch, with a half decent striker I think we would comfortably get into Europe. Moyes is great a getting bargains, hopefully he can get someone in January.
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No I get that but that's a slightly different thing. Obviously in theory we can improve everywhere, we're a hell of a long way from being the finished article, but the point was about not having time. Over the last couple of years it would have been a valid argument - teams that are scrapping to stay up and teams that are looking to compete at the top don't have time to wait for people to improve - but teams who are looking at midtable finishes absolutely do. Not winning a few games along the way because of it will be annoying of course, but developing someone is a much better plan than bringing in a bog standard journeyman who helps us pick up another 6 points this season but has no longer term benefit.
 
Ralphie Boy said:
For me, at the moment they are both showing nothing but I would start Barry above Beto for the simple reason Beto has shown nothing for longer and as such may, and it’s a big may, come good.
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Nonsense to say Barry is showing nothing when he has had involvement in some way or form in goals every time he's been on the pitch.
 
Lanolin said:
No I get that but that's a slightly different thing. Obviously in theory we can improve everywhere, we're a hell of a long way from being the finished article, but the point was about not having time. Over the last couple of years it would have been a valid argument - teams that are scrapping to stay up and teams that are looking to compete at the top don't have time to wait for people to improve - but teams who are looking at midtable finishes absolutely do. Not winning a few games along the way because of it will be annoying of course, but developing someone is a much better plan than bringing in a bog standard journeyman who helps us pick up another 6 points this season but has no longer term benefit.
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Most games certainly at home, players like Grealish, KDH, Alcaraz will have more freedom to attack. Moyes wanted another striker/ attacker we just sign one before deadline day.
 
james2805 said:
Nonsense to say Barry is showing nothing when he has had involvement in some way or form in goals every time he's been on the pitch.
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James, I think you need to realise he is 23 years of age. The shoite has a 17 year old showing so much more.

Other clubs have other young kids showing more.

He tall and wins nothing in the air and walks, yes walks around lost.
 

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