Electric car advice


Pootsy said:
So my two cars sitting at home while I'm cycling to work or to a Mountain, don't count as paying, hopefully, towards the roads?

What about Electric Cars or some of the big brand new cars paying £0 - £30 up until recently, should they have been allowed on the roads?
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WA Toffee said:
Yes they do. Overwhelming majority of cyclists also own a car. In fact, maybe they should get a rebate for every mile cycled instead of driven?
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I have 2 cars, I pay 2 lots of road tax (VED if you like).

Abyhoos ... I'm not advocating taxing bikes off the road. It should only cover the cost of implementing a means of making cyclists identifiable and therefore accountable in the hope of deterring poor road behaviour.

Hould ne cheap enough - but obviously by the time the great corrupt British institution gets its tendrils into administration there will be well connected people sapping away cash and putting the prices up, as per
 
chrismpw said:
That argument doesn't help you. Cyclists don't pay road taxes.
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No they don’t, and if you’re taxing based on consumption—how much road wear they produce—they never should and never will.

The idea that cyclists pay road tax is simply gate keeping—as though cars own the road—and this is a truly absurd idea. As is the idea that roads are only for “function,” whatever this is.

If people can’t use roads on bicycles for exercise, pleasure, and leisure then why should people be allowed to use cars for the same purposes?

“I’m sorry sir, I’ve noticed you’re going to the gym. You can’t park there, sir, you’ll have to go home and return on feet using the pavement. Roads are only for function.”
 

chrismpw said:
A cheap technicality over the use of common vernacular does not create a valid counter argument. (Although I'll admit I'm a fan of such!! )
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That's just it, it's not a technicality at all. It's not a tax that is ringfenced for spending on roads, it's a tax on pollution that goes into the general pot. Bicycles pay as much as other non-polluting modes of transport.
 
SerenityNigh said:
No they don’t, and if you’re taxing based on consumption—how much road wear they produce—they never should and never will.

The idea that cyclists pay road tax is simply gate keeping—as though cars own the road—and this is a truly absurd idea. As is the idea that roads are only for “function,” whatever this is.

If people can’t use roads on bicycles for exercise, pleasure, and leisure then why should people be allowed to use cars for the same purposes?

“I’m sorry sir, I’ve noticed you’re going to the gym. You can’t park there, sir, you’ll have to go home and return on feet using the pavement. Roads are only for function.”
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The difference is that cars being driven for fun, or to the gym, generally travel at road speeds (well, not the ones I always end up behind, granted) and so motorists don't hold up hundreds of other users, like half a dozen in a peleton can and very often do. Time thieves.
 

Bruce Wayne said:
That's just it, it's not a technicality at all. It's not a tax that is ringfenced for spending on roads, it's a tax on pollution that goes into the general pot. Bicycles pay as much as other non-polluting modes of transport.
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It was a road tax, it was renamed and couched in environmental terms solely in order to justify a hike in tax, sorry, duty, with the intention of not losing too many votes.

All road users all vehicles should pay fir the upkeep of the infrastructure.

Most funding today from river boat users goes towards keeping flood defences sound to protect housing, or maintaining riverside footpaths and bridges for the public to use. It used to be heavily subsidised by government, for the benefit of the nation, since it was recognised that not only boaters benefit from waterways. Now funding us so reduced that boaters pay exorbitantly for the lot, and fishermen hate the boats that go up and down but have paid for their access. Try getting me started on river licences!!
 
chrismpw said:
The difference is that cars being driven for fun, or to the gym, generally travel at road speeds (well, not the ones I always end up behind, granted) and so motorists don't hold up hundreds of other users, like half a dozen in a peleton can and very often do. Time thieves.
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Ah, well if we registered the bicycles that would solve the inconvenience
 
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