Summer Transfer Window 2025 Thread

[MACCA75]

How are we as fans so arrogant as to believe that every player who was once decent, but is now crap, will somehow magically come good with the healing power of Everton? How many times do we have to be proven wrong on that score before we give up?

If we drop £30m+ on Evan Ferguson I will absolutely despair.

Hey Dele Alli has finally turned it all around. Back playing after a mere 3 years out. I mean he got sent off after 9 minutes, but still.

 

[preposterousvelios]

Based on the 4 Youtube videos I've watched Emegha from Strasbourg is a one for us.

Got a feel Chelsea might get him in their squad sooner rather than later though.

Either that or he'll turn out to be the next Seb Haller.

They will be in the market for a striker this summer but have a feeling they're more looking for someone like Osimhen or someone of that calibre, a big money signing.

Emegha looks v good but not sure they would be happy to bring him in to be their starting striker next season.

Us on the other hand...

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

The West Ham fans including the reliable ones such as “ExWestHamemployee” who know more about them than either of us, lay the recruitment firmly at Moyes’ door. It was apparently a stipulation of him going there. That doesn’t exactly sound fanciful does it? We all know he’s hands on with recruitment and the strong rumour now is he’ll be hands on in recruitment again going forward here.

Yeah, but Steidten took over and it was a massive reason why Moyes left. Steidten blocked deals for guys like Maguire, McTominay and Harvey Barnes, who were all top targets for Moyes. It was so bad they were almost coming to blows.

Steidten was a disaster for West Ham.

What amazes me is they would allow a 44-year-old guy with hardly any experience to dictate to someone like Moyes. It’s not exactly worked out well for them:

“No secret” | Steidten growing frustrated with Moyes but is happy at West Ham - The West Ham Way

Tim Steidten has a vision for West Ham but is reportedly becoming irritated that he is unable to fulfil it.

www.thewesthamway.com

 

[salmon fingers]

Giorgi Chakvetadze at Watford is a proper baller in attacking mid.
I live near watford and go watch sometimes with a mate (I know, how lucky am I )
Would defo add some pace and directness to our attack.

I watch lots of Championship games but I really like it when people mention players to watch Chakvetadze is one i will watch out for in the future, thanks

 

[RinkyDinker]

I watch lots of Championship games but I really like it when people mention players to watch Chakvetadze is one i will watch out for in the future, thanks

The Georgian at Lyon also looked decent, Mikautadze. Good feet, busy. Showed up well in the Euros too.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

This. Done absolutely nothing to warrant the fawning that goes on over him.

Far to many question marks for a 19 year old.

He'll cost decent money aswell.

Do we really want 19-20 year old with supposed attitude problems who's only played a handful of games for Brighton to be leading the line for Everton.

It's a no for me.

 

[Makis]

The issue with doing it this way is thers’ll always be a massive list of ‘misses’ for any club, players that arrive on loan or a free transfer and then leave. There’s normally two or three every season for most teams, but the hits arrive once and stay for a very long time so the numbers always look skewed.

I tend to just phase out any squad/emergency loans, backup keepers, cheap young prospects on trial etc. and instead just focus on where a manager spends actual money.

Heitinga was player of the season for us so why is he in the miss column? A very good player who covered Jagielka and Distin excellently, thrived when he started at Cb, and covered CM and RB adequately. Jelavic wasn’t a miss for Moyes, he was phased out unnecessarily early by Martinez when he could have been used as a backup for Lukaku a lot more.

I’d say his significant bad buys were Kroldrup, Van Der Meyde, Simon Davies, and Beattie, maybe Bilyaletdinov at a push although I always thought we didn’t use him correctly. Even then though in comparison to what the rest of the PL were spending these weren’t even big fees. Maybe only Kroldrup’s was at the time for a CB.

Yakubu, Mirallas, Fellaini walk into this current team. One snapped his cruciate and still then bagged 17 at Blackburn. Mirallas was a key player for us under Martinez. Fellaini was sold to United for close to 30 mill and was still a key player for them under numerous managers. I wouldn’t put any of them down as misses.

Heitinga as I think I said was good for one year. After that crap. Think you have forgotten the bad and only remember his first season.

Just because forwards walk into our team doesn't make them great signings. I'm sure it's not hard to buy a RW for say 30 million who walks into this team. Still doesn't mean he would be a good signing. Ditto for CF.
I didn't put Fellaini, Mirallas and Yakubu down as misses if you read my message carefully. Just that Moyes paid a lot of money for each of them and considering the budgets back then they weren't special either. I don't think you'd be happy with a 30 million Mirallas.

Jelavic was a miss??? he scored like 9 goals in a half season , 7 in his second season and he was sold to hull during a lackluster season for 6.5 million when we bought him for 5. You're really good at this transfer assessment stuff ...

Yes, Jelavic scored during his first half season. 7 goals in 37 matches for a player who does very little apart from scoring is IMO not much. From mid-December to the end of season he scored exactly ONE goal.

How are we as fans so arrogant as to believe that every player who was once decent, but is now crap, will somehow magically come good with the healing power of Everton? How many times do we have to be proven wrong on that score before we give up?

How funny to read that about a 20-year old player. "Once was decent but is now crap". Yeah, because it's absolutely certain that if a 20-year old player has a poor half a season after a long injury, he must just be crap.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

Yeah, but Steidten took over and it was a massive reason why Moyes left. Steidten blocked deals for guys like Maguire, McTominay and Harvey Barnes, who were all top targets for Moyes. It was so bad they were almost coming to blows.

Steidten was a disaster for West Ham.

What amazes me is they would allow a 44-year-old guy with hardly any experience to dictate to someone like Moyes. It’s not exactly worked out well for them:

“No secret” | Steidten growing frustrated with Moyes but is happy at West Ham - The West Ham Way

Tim Steidten has a vision for West Ham but is reportedly becoming irritated that he is unable to fulfil it.

www.thewesthamway.com

People think because he's got Technical Director after his name that makes him far more qualified than someone's who been at the top level for over 20 years.

The amount of people I deal day with day to day with BA, BS, BE, BFA, BTech, LLB, BSc, etc after their name and you wouldn't trust them to turn a light on.

 

[MACCA75]

Heitinga as I think I said was good for one year. After that crap. Think you have forgotten the bad and only remember his first season.

Just because forwards walk into our team doesn't make them great signings. I'm sure it's not hard to buy a RW for say 30 million who walks into this team. Still doesn't mean he would be a good signing. Ditto for CF.
I didn't put Fellaini, Mirallas and Yakubu down as misses if you read my message carefully. Just that Moyes paid a lot of money for each of them and considering the budgets back then they weren't special either. I don't think you'd be happy with a 30 million Mirallas.

Yes, Jelavic scored during his first half season. 7 goals in 37 matches for a player who does very little apart from scoring is IMO not much. From mid-December to the end of season he scored exactly ONE goal.

How funny to read that about a 20-year old player. "Once was decent but is now crap". Yeah, because it's absolutely certain that if a 20-year old player has a poor half a season after a long injury, he must just be crap.

Heitinga’s first season he was very good, and he won POTY in his 3rd year. Seems it’s your memory that is crap.

 

[Makis]

People think because he's got Technical Director after his name that makes him far more qualified than someone's who been at the top level for over 20 years.

The amount of people I deal day with day to day with BA, BS, BE, BFA, BTech, LLB, BSc, etc after their name and you wouldn't trust them to turn a light on.

So you would leave the transfers to the most experienced person at the club?

I think you have the wrong idea how things work. That technical director or what ever he is called doesn't do scouting. He doesn't come up with shortlists of players. He defines a strategy and gets the analytics and scouting guys to find suitable players for that.

Problem with managers is they rarely stay more than about two seasons at a club (that's about average length of a stint). Their incentive is to get results *now* so signing a 30-year old for 30 million could make sense to them. They quite likely won't be at the club in four years time when his successor has to think what to do with this now valueless player and how to replace him.

So I guess at your company the middle-manager who has been the longest there makes the big strategic decisions instead of the CEO and board?

 

[Makis]

Heitinga’s first season he was very good, and he won POTY in his 3rd year. Seems it’s your memory that is crap.

You are right, I mixed up seasons. But he was benched a lot and was really [Poor language removed] next season after his POTY.

 

[ForeverEverton]

When Moyes was at West Ham the 1st time it looked like 3 x 10s behind a striker with the FBs giving the width. The wide 10s played in the channels, Benrahma, Lanzini, Lingard, Vlasic and more latterly Paqueta, Soucek and Kudus.I think that our best 3 behind the striker might be NDaiye, Doucoure and Alcaraz although having McNeil back might shake that up a bit. I will hasten to add that I`m not a big fan of Doucoure and Harrison, in what is left of the season would try other options than them if Moyes does not think they will be here next season.

 

[Blue Smoke]

What i trust with Moyes is getting an 'Everton' type of player in. He gets the club and the fans. Eventually i see him leaving us as a manager and becoming a technical director.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

So you would leave the transfers to the most experienced person at the club?

I think you have the wrong idea how things work. That technical director or what ever he is called doesn't do scouting. He doesn't come up with shortlists of players. He defines a strategy and gets the analytics and scouting guys to find suitable players for that.

Problem with managers is they rarely stay more than about two seasons at a club (that's about average length of a stint). Their incentive is to get results *now* so signing a 30-year old for 30 million could make sense to them. They quite likely won't be at the club in four years time when his successor has to think what to do with this now valueless player and how to replace him.

So I guess at your company the middle-manager who has been the longest there makes the big strategic decisions instead of the CEO and board?

Moyes is identifying players...not making big strategic decisions though?

You also mentioned that managers rarely make past 2 years...How long did Steigen last?

I am also that Middle manager you speak of ha...And unfortunately for me my future father in law is the CEO, I'd say am pretty in involved in big strategic decisions.

 

[Makis]

Moyes is identifying players...not making big strategic decisions though?

You also mentioned that managers rarely make past 2 years...How long did Steigen last?

I am also that Middle manager you speak of ha...And unfortunately for me my future father in law is the CEO, I'd say am pretty in involved in big strategic decisions.

What does Steigen have to do with managers? He isn't one as far as I know.

Player signings are big strategic decisions as they can affect the club for years. And this is not just one player but several. How long did the 2017 splurge Moshiri paid for affect the club? In a way it still is, maybe and hopefully we finally get over it this summer.