Is Premier League Boring?

Lanolin said:
It's been boring this season in the sense that there's not going to be much drama in the last few weeks, but I'm not sure I agree with the general 'it was so different in my day' sentiment. Just typical nostalgia talking that I think.
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I actually think the PL is genuinely really interesting currently. You basically have very little between 16th and potentially even 17th up to 4th. You can rise up the table quickly and it's really fluid.

I also don't think the top teams (which are basically 3) are miles ahead either. I know Arsenal dropped a few players, but to me they're not miles ahead of say Bournemouth or Aston Villa or whatever. I'm really interested how that shakes itself out.

If Liverpool let Salah go, it will sound mad but they could easily end up being 7th or whatever as well.

I think you've got a league now, where loads of the teams are basically good, in different ways.
 

catcherintherye said:
I actually think the PL is genuinely really interesting currently. You basically have very little between 16th and potentially even 17th up to 4th. You can rise up the table quickly and it's really fluid.

I also don't think the top teams (which are basically 3) are miles ahead either. I know Arsenal dropped a few players, but to me they're not miles ahead of say Bournemouth or Aston Villa or whatever. I'm really interested how that shakes itself out.

If Liverpool let Salah go, it will sound mad but they could easily end up being 7th or whatever as well.

I think you've got a league now, where loads of the teams are basically good, in different ways.
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The problem with this is that if any of the teams below the "big" clubs start to get a sniff of success the big clubs just throw some money at it and hoover up all their best players to sit on their bench. Seen it happen every season.
 
JelavicBrate2 said:
Personally this season has been worst season ever, an average RS side, who have an appalling defence have managed to comfortably win title. Their nearest challengers Arsenal have managed to continually do their best to drop points. I used to know most players from other clubs, now I don't even bother watching other teams. It it just me that finds modern game tediously boring?
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Agree.

One of the major things for me as well is the officiating. It just gets worse and worse by the year and VAR has practically killed the game off completely. Literally couldn't even tell you the last time that I properly celebrated an Everton goal, including the Tarkowski equaliser in the derby, because I just naturally assume that there's at least a 50/50 chance that it'll go to VAR anyway..
 
Papa Shango said:
The problem with this is that if any of the teams below the "big" clubs start to get a sniff of success the big clubs just throw some money at it and hoover up all their best players to sit on their bench. Seen it happen every season.
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I think though, they basically spend a lot of money, and a lot of those teams them find better alternatives. Like I'm not sure I'm taking Spurs to finish above say Brighton next season. It's an interesting debate though, but the "big 6" feel very broken currently.
 

Yes. You have to 'fit in' to be considered part of it. Everything has to be the same and there can be no criticism, no individuality. Even individual referees are no longer allowed to explain (and make) decisions - if there is anything 'contoversial' in a game the all seeing eye (PGMOL) give their opinion from what they've been told by someone who saw it on a screen.

German football is absolutely dire, the matches (I've seen, no matter who is playing) are all exactly the same (even if a team are 4-0 down they still try and 'play out' - it's crap, utter crap), the fans, it's now a 'process' and 'life experience' and the PL is not far behind (apart from we are light years ahead with the number of tourists (or locals) filming corner kicks and throw ins on their phones).
 
It's dead. Gone.

Top flight football needs a reboot.

The Euro Scab League was the change that the English top flight desperately needed to happen. When it was stopped it spelled the end for the PL.

The PL is meaningless now.

Apart from Everton's ridiculous development on the pitch, I pretty much just watch the Spanish and Italian leagues and the latter stages of the European competitions. Have done for about 5 years.

European football and that stadium of ours are my only interest in football.
 
I don't watch it anymore - I make do with three-minute YouTube highlights and restrict my live viewing to the international tournaments every two years, by and large - but one thing I would say is the general mediocrity in the division could work in its favour in terms of competitiveness. Obviously, Liverpool were the beneficiaries of City's decline, but it may be that there is no leading team next season and clubs like Villa, Newcastle, or anybody else, really, could compete if City remain in decline and Liverpool struggle to rebuild.

A good summer for us and we could well feature in a battle for European football.
 
Exeter_Gently said:
Yep....absolutely crap.

Go back 15 years.

The reason we love Ndiaye so much because he's throw back to when a player used individual brilliance to beat a man.

Individualism has been completely squashed out the game.
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Too many players are just athletes now, they have no character players like Le Tissier, Okocha, Bergkamp your Artetas are a thing of the past. It's been a boring product for a while City and RS just beating teams most weeks, it just isn't that interesting. You don't get games like 4-4 against United anymore, now our players would just treat it as training exercise.
 
There has definitely been a downturn in quality this season and probably seasons before that to be honest. You do see it happen occasionally but it does eventually pick back up. It’s come at the right time for us as we move to our beautiful new home and start our squad rebuild.
 

Drico said:
I don't watch it anymore - I make do with three-minute YouTube highlights and restrict my live viewing to the international tournaments every two years, by and large - but one thing I would say is the general mediocrity in the division could work in its favour in terms of competitiveness. Obviously, Liverpool were the beneficiaries of City's decline, but it may be that there is no leading team next season and clubs like Villa, Newcastle, or anybody else, really, could compete if City remain in decline and Liverpool struggle to rebuild.

A good summer for us and we could well feature in a battle for European football.
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I cant even watch MOTD. It's 'kin dreadful. Nobheads like 'Chappers' and 'Links' being all laddish with the dullard pundits and trying to serve up something palatable. But all they have to offer is brief highlights of boiled 💩.

The PL is a zombie league. It'll carry on until someone does the decent thing and slices its head off with a spade.
 
Yes its awful, has been for years now.

All the players are the same, there are no individuals anymore. The style of play is the same. Its just a bore fest.

10-15 years ago I would watch pretty much any PL game on TV and would look forward to Super Sunday. Now i don't care and hardly watch any but the Everton games.

Pep has contributed massively to the downfall of English football.
 
VAR is a huge turn-off, though. It's now a narrative tool of the authorities to generate contrived controversy. That and the pricing out of anybody other than the slightly insane has turned me away. Subscriptions are simply not worth the money. The "content" is not that compelling.

There's also a generation gap developing for me. I'm 52 now and find it harder and harder to relate to many of the players of today. I think that's natural, to a point, but I think the fact that pretty much every top-flight player is a millionnaire increases any natural gap to a chasm. These are no longer "working-class" or even "middle-class" heroes. They are, very often, entitled privileged content providers.

The latter stages of the Champions League - the highest standard of world football - are often superb. But not always. We were spoiled for a while there over the previous decade. Yet, it's hard to cheer even against the PL clubs with the same passion as before when the alternative is to support the deeply malign presidents of Barcelona and Real Madrid and the human rights-abusing despots that run PSG.

So, it's the World Cup and Euros for me - where the superstars can be rightly judged on how effective they are at dragging more ordinary players to glory instead of being surrounded by other mercenary superstars at elite club level. Yet, even those glorious tournaments have now been turned into Frankenstein's monsters, so bloated they have become in the service of votes for FIFA and UEFA presidential campaigns...

The Big Match Revisited it is, then.
 
catcherintherye said:
I think though, they basically spend a lot of money, and a lot of those teams them find better alternatives. Like I'm not sure I'm taking Spurs to finish above say Brighton next season. It's an interesting debate though, but the "big 6" feel very broken currently.
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Anyone wanting to understand why the PL is dead they only need to look at that catastrophic club. Feted as a 'Big' club they're about as relevant as we've been for the last few decades.


Overall, no one can say that the quality of this league hasn't cratered. It's dreadful. Arsenal and Villa will get mullered in their CL QFs.
 

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