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[OneTrueLegend]

Where would you run it from? Where would the Trams park up overnight? The easy part is putting in the straight lengths of tram tracks, but its the stations that are the problem as they take up more room. And the cost of the project. Will local folks be happy with millions being spent on a tram system to any area that is not fully developed, while there seems to be a lot of problems on the existing Merseyrail network? Maybe the crowd leading the dockside development would pay for a good chunk of the cost as it would improve the access to the area they`re looking to develop.

It should be something versatile, there are trams than can run on both traditional tram tracks and train tracks, then they could build off the existing train network, add in a tram track along the dock road from the new stadium down to Brunswick, where it could use the train tracks, then build tram tracks from somewhere near South Parkway to the airport. It would take years to do and a big investment, but its the type of infrastructure that can have a positive impact on the overall city.

 

[BullensRoad]

Where would you run it from? Where would the Trams park up overnight? The easy part is putting in the straight lengths of tram tracks, but its the stations that are the problem as they take up more room. And the cost of the project. Will local folks be happy with millions being spent on a tram system to any area that is not fully developed, while there seems to be a lot of problems on the existing Merseyrail network? Maybe the crowd leading the dockside development would pay for a good chunk of the cost as it would improve the access to the area they`re looking to develop.

The main road near the stadium still hast the central reserve which was used for trams originally wasn't it?

And yeah i think people would be happy if millions got spent on an exciting new infrastructure project.

 

[Connor]

Is there a link in here to the full segment on the radio yesterday? The clips that Rotherham have put up seem only to be his turn to speak and it’s like reading from a script. I’d love to see him actually challenged on the nonsense he is coming out with and ideally someone asking him why none of this has been done in the 6 or so years.

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[Sweeneytoad]

It was a case of Tomorrow Never Knows for Rotheram.

I'll bet he hoped that Everton had slipped into the Championship and all attention from fans would have been on that and the furore would have been all in-house among Evertonians leaving him to get on with allowing an 'evolutionary' process (basically muddle along and allow fans to sort a pattern of movement out) to take care of the impending transportation mess.

But we didn't go down and all that attention is right on his office and he's now ing bricks and pointing the finger of blame elsewhere.

The feller's a chancer...he has been since he was a young man in the building game. But I reckon he's run out of squares on the chess board with this stunt.

The Echo's most senior political correspondent Liam Thorp, ghost wrote Rotheram's books book as well, so don't expect him or the Echo to hold him to account either.

 

[davek]

The Echo's most senior political correspondent Liam Thorp, ghost wrote Rotheram's books book as well, so don't expect him or the Echo to hold him to account either.

I've seen that feller on Newsnight a few times. A dullard repeating the same old discredited soft left narrative.

A Starmer Party drone in the making.

Obviously both of them are using each other there in any book collaboration.

The pair of them would be swept away into the gutters in any true socialist tide.

 

[gazzaa2]

The Echo's most senior political correspondent Liam Thorp, ghost wrote Rotheram's books book as well, so don't expect him or the Echo to hold him to account either.

Thorp is just a Labour stooge. Won't hold any of them to account. Sorry excuse for a political journalist

 

[davek]

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What an absolute hustler Rotheram is - hiding behind 'strategic review' to avoid coming up with solutions now.

He's either...

a) dumping the problem into Everton's lap and saying it's their fault

...or

b) trying to kick this into the long grass and talk up a "north Liverpool-south Sefton partnership' solution to the possibility of a tramline through the area.

And he's had 5 years to come up with this 'glider-rapid transport system' and get it in place.

 

[chrismpw]

It should be something versatile, there are trams than can run on both traditional tram tracks and train tracks, then they could build off the existing train network, add in a tram track along the dock road from the new stadium down to Brunswick, where it could use the train tracks, then build tram tracks from somewhere near South Parkway to the airport. It would take years to do and a big investment, but its the type of infrastructure that can have a positive impact on the overall city.

Sounds like you need a monorail!

 

[Ed_Winchester]

It was a case of Tomorrow Never Knows for Rotheram.

I'll bet he hoped that Everton had slipped into the Championship and all attention from fans would have been on that and the furore would have been all in-house among Evertonians leaving him to get on with allowing an 'evolutionary' process (basically muddle along and allow fans to sort a pattern of movement out) to take care of the impending transportation mess.

But we didn't go down and all that attention is right on his office and he's now ing bricks and pointing the finger of blame elsewhere.

The feller's a chancer...he has been since he was a young man in the building game. But I reckon he's run out of squares on the chess board with this stunt.

If it had been his beloved LFC, Rotherham would have been out there helping to lay the rails himself

 

[PhilEFC]

It should be something versatile, there are trams than can run on both traditional tram tracks and train tracks, then they could build off the existing train network, add in a tram track along the dock road from the new stadium down to Brunswick, where it could use the train tracks, then build tram tracks from somewhere near South Parkway to the airport. It would take years to do and a big investment, but its the type of infrastructure that can have a positive impact on the overall city.

If it was Manchester, it would be done.

Always been too many egos and blockers in our council it seems.

 

[Leylo]

If it was Manchester, it would be done.

Always been too many egos and blockers in our council it seems.

Like the mafia in our city terrible

 

[davek]

If it had been his beloved LFC, Rotherham would have been out there helping to lay the rails himself

If a new tram line depended on 10,000 houses being built from Vauxhall to Bootle he'd have got his trowel out of retirement and been down there laying bricks.

 

[davek]

You can see a mile off what Rotheram's 'solution' is here: let them walk there / part of the way there. 'Active travel'. And if anyone questions why there's nothing better: point at the club that's built a new stadium without a penny of public money.

He obviously thinks if he says enough times that the club are responsible for the lack of progress on transport and that the market determines the benefit to cost ratio not to be attractive enough for LCR to be drawn into infrastructural improvements then he's home and hosed. No wonder he's demanding another hour's worth of free propaganda from Radio Merseyside to hammer his excuses home.

He's making the wrong calculations on this though. He's on the hook for it and no one is looking any further than his office.

 

[Connor]

What an absolute hustler Rotheram is - hiding behind 'strategic review' to avoid coming up with solutions now.

He's either...

a) dumping the problem into Everton's lap and saying it's their fault

...or

b) trying to kick this into the long grass and talk up a "north Liverpool-south Sefton partnership' solution to the possibility of a tramline through the area.

And he's had 5 years to come up with this 'glider-rapid transport system' and get it in place.

He’s already blamed the club, so that’ll be his route to shifting the blame. Which, is completely false, because we knew this stadium was getting built regardless.

His mate Burnham would have had a plan in place before spades even went into the dock. Christ, so would have Mayor Joe.

He is an embittered Kopite who will be seen as a titanic failure when he fails to deliver for the city off the back of this stadium.

 

[ultra]

How Rotheram didn't at least come up with an idea of numerous dedicated Soccer Buses, on the dock road to the north & south of the stadium serving the north/south of the city is beyond me.

Seems like that would have been the absolute minimum thought into transport. Not a holding pen at a station too small to cope.

The idea of having a few buses to town and a couple to Bootle was laughably inept. Bizarrely, there was nothing going eastwards towards Goodison/Walton at all!