VAR

[sd_1992]

Anyone still defending this shambles needs yeeting.
And don't give me that 'it's not VAR, it's how it's used' bollocks either.

Watch the rugby and tell me that it cant be used properly.

The bent people running it are the problem. Corruption will eventually kill football.

 

[Osamabindiesel]

It should be a good thing, but it is used to reinforce bias. It's a shame.

 

[Titus Shambles]

This is the problem - no matter whether it's corruption or just incompetence, what happened today looks exactly like what people feared VAR would be - the VAR decided what the outcome of the match should be, and showed the ref the angles that got to that outcome. It's indefensible and it fuels all the suspicions people have over it.

Spot on with all that. The job of VAR is --to some degree-- to decide results/outcomes, subject to it being applicable. At its most basic level, the point of VAR is to find reasons NOT to award a goal at any point in the build up to the goal, it is not there to find reasons TO award a goal. It's like bureaucrats running the game: find the slightest reason to rule something out and they can all hi-five each other and celebrate how good they are at spotting the tiniest thing like eagle-eyed tv detectives, picking and choosing what to apply and when with zero accountability.

 

[JLW]

 

[Osamabindiesel]

It should not be overturned unless it's beyond a reasonable doubt. And by reasonable I mean it isn't reasonable to award Everton penalties.

 

[Sharpies volley]

If that's Salah who goes down, it's given.

 

[Osamabindiesel]

They should be held accountable. But they won't

 

[Titus Shambles]

If that's Salah who goes down, it's given.

Same if it was Bruno Fernandes up the other end. Some players and teams are favoured because of the sychophantic worship of them driven by the talking heads in the media, others are at the other end of the stick. I think it was Ally McCoist on a commentary clip who said "Young has a history of diving so the referee should take that into account".

 

[JelavicBrate2]

It should be a good thing, but it is used to reinforce bias. It's a shame.

It was never gonna work, with media being infested with RS and United fans. Plus it wasn't a clear and obvious error, and it can easily be manipulated with angles to change people's perception.

 

[JLW]

If that's Salah who goes down, it's given.

It really is that simple, they play the badge not offence it seems.

 

[Titus Shambles]

It was never gonna work, with media being infested with RS and United fans. Plus it wasn't a clear and obvious error, and it can easily be manipulated with angles to change people's perception.

Until there are clear stipulations what constitutes 'clear and obvious' and when exactly VAR can intervene and what for, it'll never change. Too much subjectivity, too much inconsistency which leads to the claims of bias and applying rules as they please to decide outcomes they want. At it's core the rules of the game needs to be favouring the attacking sides/players in valid instances, not having a forensic panel go through every possible thing to rule a goal out, because that is what they are currently there to do.

 

[Amw79]

Has anyone seen the Garner one from the first half. Looked like a foul in the box, but he got straight back up, then was fouled again outside the box, and ref played advantage, and it came to nothing.

Don’t think there was a VAR check, and didn’t show a replay at all?

May well not have been anything, but haven’t seen it back at all.

 

[magicjuan]

VAR is working exactly how they want it to...

 

[OzarkBlue]

If that's Salah who goes down, it's given.

If it was Salad, he get 2 pens. One for the pull and one for the clatter.

 

[Wat Tyler]