2024/25 David Moyes

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It’s easy to say he should have changed it earlier, but the problem was Man Utd had tweaked things and had come back into it. We weren’t tired or anything the time of their comeback, but comfortable.

What happened was they scored from a free kick that should not have occurred as the immediate free kick before it which resulted in the handball was not a foul.

Their second was a bit of magic and a bit of disorganisation in defence. But if was a direct consequence of their first giving them a lift.

It doesn’t help that out bench is about as thin as Michael Barrymore’s hair. Moyes is a bit hamstrung when it comes to making changes.
 


One of those games where the if's, but's and maybe's didn't go our way in the second half. Was always coming as though the results in and of themselves have been impressive under Moyes we've had plenty of those 'got away with that' moments.

Moyes has done great so far but there's a few who started kidding themselves that the results meant the players he is working with are actually decent on the whole. They aren't. There's a good few with flaky mentalities and below PL average ability.

We can't blame the manager for that and he doesn't have the options off the bench to fix it.
 
So for Dyche, the players weren't able to or good enough to pass. He's gone, now they can under Moyes.

For Moyes, there are no options on the bench, despite the fact the same bench options have started games and have won us games (Charly last time out for example).

He's doing fantastic work and is clearly the right man for it currently (as much as I personally doubted him), but stop making excuses for managers like this ffs! We can say he's doing a good job but effed this game up, it happens, we go again next week; problem is if this happens and costs us points every week.
 

Bedfordblue said:
He seemed quite happy with the point.
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He has a job to do - and it's going really well for him. In our heads, we think we should be aiming for Europe and Cups. His horizons, right now, are different. I think that's fine. I would just like to see a little bit of passion about him in defending us from an obvious wrong. Is it any surprise we were the recipients of a record points deduction when we are so painfully timid?
 
Bedfordblue said:
He seemed quite happy with the point.
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I doubt he is. However if I was him I would probably be thinking that I don't want to finish too high because it might set expectations too high for the next season and anything under will put him under pressure.

I guess in the context of this seasons aims a point is a good point but the amount of luck Man Utd get when we play them is really ridiculous. They often play terrible against us but always come away with something and more often than not 3 points. Palace probably feel that way about us.
 
Drico said:
He has a job to do - and it's going really well for him. In our heads, we think we should be aiming for Europe and Cups. His horizons, right now, are different. I think that's fine. I would just like to see a little bit of passion about him in defending us from an obvious wrong. Is it any surprise we were the recipients of a record points deduction when we are so painfully timid?
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We aided the PL as well in it without objections at first, did we not? In that way, Moyes is a perfect fit :lol:

I'd say we shouldn't be in the Europe contention just yet (or definitely not this season) and he's right to be cautious, but there is still that lingering "knife to a gunfight" mentality that he has had his entire career. Maybe he'll get rid of it with more backing and with the relatively fresh start next season?
 

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