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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3
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Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Unfortunately beating them and winning trophies probably go hand in hand. They’re nearly always in the latter stages of most of the cups and challenging for titles so if we want to be back up there we need to be able to beat them consistently.
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
Liverpool fans can’t be happy unless Everton fans are miserable. I’ve made this comment many times over the years, if they won the treble and we won the League Cup the same season it would completely ruin their season. They’d be furious. They really are just narcissists whose primary concern is whether other people are allowed to enjoy something that they can’t join in with. This isn’t a “minority of idiots” either, it’s the vast majority of them. It also isn’t the “out of towners” it’s all of them and in particular scousers to be honest. Scouse reds are the most bitter, unhinged, entitled mouth-foamers of the lot. They’re the ones that go out of their way to bring balloons and bedsheets to football matches.
They gather at Bongo’s Bingo and watch a fella sing very badly with a guitar songs about Liverpool players, not out of pride and enjoyment but purely to try and lord it over other people, that’s also why all their banners say “imagine being us” and other such cringeworthy aggressive nonsense. They don’t enjoy their own success, they just use it to try and make themselves feel like they’re better than other people. There’s nothing in their own lives they can use, because most of the time they’ve never achieved anything at all to speak of and have made football their entire personality, so they piggyback on the achievements of a football club in order to get that validation and sneer at the paupers (people that support football teams that don’t win as many trophies).
Look at their reaction to drawing a game. They’ve made this rivalry the most toxic in the entire Premier League and one of the most toxic in the country, and I fear one day it will completely boil over into something. It’ll be because of them, and they’ll try and use their weird online cult to flip the narrative the other way and blame us. You’ll get the Hillsborough shouts and everything. They are all deranged, more or less to a man. The last decade of them having everything their own way will just make things 10x worse, as we’re starting to see now with them not being able to mentally deal with failing to win a football match. They are dangerous people who are fundamentally psychologically damaged in my opinion.
barneygumble
Player Valuation: £60m
Oh fully aware. It was more hypothetical for me.
Realise we're in the Liverpool thread, but trophies are more important to me than beating Liverpool.
If we can do both, perfect! But I'd sacrifice every derby game if it means a few pots and us competing.
twoblue
Player Valuation: £35m
“Beto pushes Ibrahima Konaté and nobody notices“
The more I watch the goal the less of an incident I see.
twoblue
Player Valuation: £35m
The internet has made everything worse.Liverpool fans can’t be happy unless Everton fans are miserable. I’ve made this comment many times over the years, if they won the treble and we won the League Cup the same season it would completely ruin their season. They’d be furious. They really are just narcissists whose primary concern is whether other people are allowed to enjoy something that they can’t join in with. This isn’t a “minority of idiots” either, it’s the vast majority of them. It also isn’t the “out of towners” it’s all of them and in particular scousers to be honest. Scouse reds are the most bitter, unhinged, entitled mouth-foamers of the lot. They’re the ones that go out of their way to bring balloons and bedsheets to football matches.
They gather at Bongo’s Bingo and watch a fella sing very badly with a guitar songs about Liverpool players, not out of pride and enjoyment but purely to try and lord it over other people, that’s also why all their banners say “imagine being us” and other such cringeworthy aggressive nonsense. They don’t enjoy their own success, they just use it to try and make themselves feel like they’re better than other people. There’s nothing in their own lives they can use, because most of the time they’ve never achieved anything at all to speak of and have made football their entire personality, so they piggyback on the achievements of a football club in order to get that validation and sneer at the paupers (people that support football teams that don’t win as many trophies).
Look at their reaction to drawing a game. They’ve made this rivalry the most toxic in the entire Premier League and one of the most toxic in the country, and I fear one day it will completely boil over into something. It’ll be because of them, and they’ll try and use their weird online cult to flip the narrative the other way and blame us. You’ll get the Hillsborough shouts and everything. They are all deranged, more or less to a man. The last decade of them having everything their own way will just make things 10x worse, as we’re starting to see now with them not being able to mentally deal with failing to win a football match. They are dangerous people who are fundamentally psychologically damaged in my opinion.
Football and politics has become defend everything and attack everything in unison. No time
For nuance. No time to think that you don’t know the background of the guy who wrote that comment. Every idiots voice is given the same value.
Hinchcliffe's Corner
Player Valuation: £50m
It's a shame because his cricket articles used to be a joy to read, he's gone off the wagon with football.
Alanbileysfeathercut
Player Valuation: £80m
He had a shocker
He looked lost at times
After the few weeks he's had a game like this is the last thing he needed.
I'm guessing his bosses asked him if he's ready
and he said yes
Tipp blue
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
It is their big fixture.. VVD was nearly crying while he was trying to downplay it's importance to them, Slot's head popped off, Doucoure was assaulted and the fans went into a collective meltdown unmatched by anything we've seen before even the Pickford incident.
barneygumble
Player Valuation: £60m
That's probably a bit of a stretch, mind.
But as a collective, I want the media to acknowledge this as THE big fixture. Liverpool players have never truly gotten over the Van Dijk incident. He in particular always gives an extra 10% in Derbies... which is why it was lovely to see him playing Doucoure onside on Wednesday night.
toffee82
Player Valuation: £30m
And Beto for the first. Beto takes up a great position between the centre halves. Konate had his back to him and Van Dijk didn't even move.
Van Dijk's biggest skill is being able to shift blame when they concede. He's often miles out of position when goals are scored. So much so that someone else gets blamed.
If you do write him a letter please call him a kopite rat or a gobshite
Toffe3m4n
Player Valuation: £80m
Absolutely spot on mate.Liverpool fans can’t be happy unless Everton fans are miserable. I’ve made this comment many times over the years, if they won the treble and we won the League Cup the same season it would completely ruin their season. They’d be furious. They really are just narcissists whose primary concern is whether other people are allowed to enjoy something that they can’t join in with. This isn’t a “minority of idiots” either, it’s the vast majority of them. It also isn’t the “out of towners” it’s all of them and in particular scousers to be honest. Scouse reds are the most bitter, unhinged, entitled mouth-foamers of the lot. They’re the ones that go out of their way to bring balloons and bedsheets to football matches.
They gather at Bongo’s Bingo and watch a fella sing very badly with a guitar songs about Liverpool players, not out of pride and enjoyment but purely to try and lord it over other people, that’s also why all their banners say “imagine being us” and other such cringeworthy aggressive nonsense. They don’t enjoy their own success, they just use it to try and make themselves feel like they’re better than other people. There’s nothing in their own lives they can use, because most of the time they’ve never achieved anything at all to speak of and have made football their entire personality, so they piggyback on the achievements of a football club in order to get that validation and sneer at the paupers (people that support football teams that don’t win as many trophies).
Look at their reaction to drawing a game. They’ve made this rivalry the most toxic in the entire Premier League and one of the most toxic in the country, and I fear one day it will completely boil over into something. It’ll be because of them, and they’ll try and use their weird online cult to flip the narrative the other way and blame us. You’ll get the Hillsborough shouts and everything. They are all deranged, more or less to a man. The last decade of them having everything their own way will just make things 10x worse, as we’re starting to see now with them not being able to mentally deal with failing to win a football match. They are dangerous people who are fundamentally psychologically damaged in my opinion.
It's like being a Liverpool fan & 'hating' Everton is seen as character trait rather than anything specifically to do with the actual football these days, particularly amongst the 'Gen Z' crowd and a smattering of millennials.
That club has become so commercialised in the last 15-20 years that it's become a bit of a farce, well before Klopp rocked up but he arguably made it a lot worse.
Toffe3m4n
Player Valuation: £80m
Why would they do that though? I thought that part of the docks was 'dead' and 'stinks'?
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