2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[GrandOldTeam]

Ancelotti himself admitted that because he ran away to Real Madrid and said he couldn’t coach our players because they were so bad, compared it to driving a Vauxhall Astra or something didn’t he?

Your head has gone haha. You’ve just been searching for 10 minutes for a post of me saying we should sack Ancelotti, and that is the best you’ve come up with.

You asked.
There's a bookmark feature. With search.
10 seconds.

But that's too much to be honest, you time bandit worm you.

 

[MikeH72]

You asked.
There's a bookmark feature. With search.
10 seconds.

But that's too much to be honest, you time bandit worm you.

But that’s not me saying I wanted him sacked so maybe it would’ve been worth searching a bit longer if you wanted a show stopping vault?

 

[Saint Domingo]

Let him go, man.

It’s just a fact in response to hypothetical scenarios people are making up. Maybe you should tell them to let it go? The fact is one Everton manager has won a Goodison derby since Moyes did in 2010, that was Dych in his one and only attempt, so why are people saying he’d have definitely lost 4-1 last night because he didn’t get Everton? Maybe if a few more of our previous managers hadn’t have ‘got’ Everton we’d have a better derby record.

 

[Lanolin]

Im not going trawling but suggestions and comments that the tactics being used were down to the players available to him, other managers aren’t coming in and getting more out of this squad and it’s the players limitations leading to this were said often. It was repeated (admittedly) by a handful is posters, but often the more vocal ones in support of him. Like I’ve said previous, some of them were condescending, patronising and insulting, so people taking digs back at them now is not exactly unexpected.

I mean I think the whole Dychette thing was a bit of an insult wasn't it? I think it's a little disingenuous to pretend that people supporting Dyche were the tyrannical majority and the plucky underdogs are now brave enough to have their say. There were about 10 people who ever defended him to any extent and we got absolute dog's abuse for it!

 

[GrandOldTeam]

But that’s not me saying I wanted him sacked so maybe it would’ve been worth searching a bit longer if you wanted a show stopping vault?

I didn't want.

You asked.

As you continue to ask, the full context is below;

Being unhappy with what we’ve been served up this season is not “bed wetting”

We’re a shambles of a football club from top to bottom.

Never said being unhappy was betwetting.

Also saying the manager must do better isn’t bed wetting.

You keep saying you want him sacked though.

Where have I said that??? I said I don’t believe he can take us forward with the players we’ll give him. I certainly don’t think we will or should write off £30m or whatever it is by sacking him tomorrow.

You stop just short but get off the fence.

You don't think he's the right manager for Everton. You don't think he can improve us.

Bookmarking you...

Bookmark me, like I give a toss. And no, I don’t believe he is the right manager for where we are right now and am more than happy to be vaulted if wrong. Consider me off that fence.

That was just one instance I bookmarked at the time as a joke, as I said I would;

You can be a worm, or own it. Ultimately you didn't think Carlo Ancelotti was the right manager for Everton.

 

[canuckblue]

It’s just a fact in response to hypothetical scenarios people are making up. Maybe you should tell them to let it go? The fact is one Everton manager has won a Goodison derby since Moyes did in 2010, that was Dych in his one and only attempt, so why are people saying he’d have definitely lost 4-1 last night because he didn’t get Everton? Maybe if a few more of our previous managers hadn’t have ‘got’ Everton we’d have a better derby record.

Given his own self-admitted limitations and the way the team was playing under his inflexibility on subs, tactics, etc., in my opinion there's every chance we would have been tonked last night with him in charge. We stayed up in 2023 by 45 minutes, we stayed up last year despite two deductions (clearly showing the squad had enough talent to do so), yet the team was regressing this season. So he was manager for a Goodison derby win. Put up a statue.

 

[MikeH72]

I didn't want.

You asked.

As you continue to ask, the full context is below;















You can be a worm, or own it. Ultimately you didn't think Carlo Ancelotti was the right manager for Everton.

Keep trying. Maybe you’ll find one some day. Or maybe you won’t, because I never said it.

Carlo Ancelotti is a manager that manages elite footballers. We had no elite footballers, we had crap footballers. Carlo Ancelotti himself admitted he wasn’t the right manager for us, because he walked out and went to Real Madrid to coach elite footballers instead of Michael Keane.

Anyway back on topic. Nobody else could do any better with these players. 17th would be an achievement.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Given his own self-admitted limitations and the way the team was playing under his inflexibility on subs, tactics, etc., in my opinion there's every chance we would have been tonked last night with him in charge. We stayed up in 2023 by 45 minutes, we stayed up last year despite two deductions (clearly showing the squad had enough talent to do so), yet the team was regressing this season. So he was manager for a Goodison derby win. Put up a statue.

Bizarre take. You’re pretty certain of a hypothetical event that hasn’t happened but you’ll decry one that has with ‘put up a statue’

Maybe take your own advice and let him go

 

[Marius57]

I mean I think the whole Dychette thing was a bit of an insult wasn't it? I think it's a little disingenuous to pretend that people supporting Dyche were the tyrannical majority and the plucky underdogs are now brave enough to have their say. There were about 10 people who ever defended him to any extent and we got absolute dog's abuse for it!

I mean, I haven’t suggested that at all

I try not to use insults. Have had insults aimed at me multiple times and pointed out others resorting to insults multiple times within the Dyche thread. So a bit of pointing out how wrong some of the above claims were isn’t exactly a major outrage in my book.

I apologise if you found dychettes to be an insult, but in my view it was literally a term for those who support him. Same way evertonian is a term for someone who supports Everton.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Keep trying. Maybe you’ll find one some day. Or maybe you won’t, because I never said it.

Carlo Ancelotti is a manager that manages elite footballers. We had no elite footballers, we had crap footballers. Carlo Ancelotti himself admitted he wasn’t the right manager for us, because he walked out and went to Real Madrid to coach elite footballers instead of Michael Keane.

Anyway back on topic. Nobody else could do any better with these players. 17th would be an achievement.

Carlo Ancelotti has the 4th highest win rate as Everton manager behind Kendall, Molyneux and Catterick.

When you were continually on his case, saying he has to do better - well, we've not done much better since he left, have we? Benitez. Lampard. Dyche. Now Moyes.

I'd have Ancelotti back tomorrow.

 

[Deleted member 50501]

He also would have had us in the Championship next season given his efforts this season. But go ahead, cling to that one nugget of gold amid all the crap if it makes your day brighter.

Mine is a fact. Yours is a what if

 

[knowing your history]

Given his own self-admitted limitations and the way the team was playing under his inflexibility on subs, tactics, etc., in my opinion there's every chance we would have been tonked last night with him in charge. We stayed up in 2023 by 45 minutes, we stayed up last year despite two deductions (clearly showing the squad had enough talent to do so), yet the team was regressing this season. So he was manager for a Goodison derby win. Put up a statue.

I think Dyche could've got a 0-0/1-1 against Liverpool if it had been played in December as intended. He'd just beaten Wolves 4-0 so Goodison would've had a much better atmosphere and the three games after were draws against Arsenal, Chelsea and Man. City.

My issue is given what we saw against Forest and Bournemouth is little chance he'd have got anywhere close to 9 points from the three games Moyes has won, perhaps 5 at the very best so that haul has saved the club from the serious battle it was in to stay up.

Imagine currently only being on 22/23 points and getting all these injuries with Dyche still in charge. That's why he had to be dismissed when he did rather than leaving it to late Feb or March as then the task is so much more difficult than what Moyes inherited.

 

[canuckblue]

Bizarre take. You’re pretty certain of a hypothetical event that hasn’t happened but you’ll decry one that has with ‘put up a statue’

Maybe take your own advice and let him go

I have. Wish we all could. I'm just really trying to see why some of you are still lauding him when he obviously had us headed for relegation.

 

[MikeH72]

Carlo Ancelotti has the 4th highest win rate as Everton manager behind Kendall, Molyneux and Catterick.

When you were continually on his case, saying he has to do better - well, we've not done much better since he left, have we?

Benitez. Lampard. Dyche. Now Moyes.

I'd have Ancelotti back tomorrow.

Well who was to know that we were about to embark on that string of absolute bums back to back?

Why have you ignored the quotes from me on the day that Ancelotti was confirmed as leaving, saying I was gutted about it?

I never wanted him sacked, ever. Not once did I advocate it. I was disappointed with how we performed under him during the second half of his full season, massively disappointed in fact. I still think failing to get Europe that season was failure from the position we were in. I didn’t have the benefit of being able to see into the future and see how bad we were going to be in comparison at that moment in time though, seemingly you did so well done for that.

 

[Caolam]

No one knows what would have happened last night if Sean Dyche had still been managing Everton. Why are people concerning themselves with hypothetical nonsense. Sean Dyche is not the manager, David Moyes is and he has picked up points regularly since he took over. Just be happy that we seem to be moving in the right direction, leave the whataboutary to others.