2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

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Are You pair, trying to make out people that supported Dyche prior to the takeover, are somehow wanting Moyes to fail.
Where have you seen that?
Nope. I was half joking, half genuinely wondering 😂. When does a new manager bounce end? Lampard won 1 game for example. Dyche won 2. Moyes has won 3, but after the first one, is it just down to his management? Or still the bounce? Does it last longer the better the manager? as then that’s surely down to their management?

Dave aside, I don’t think anyone wants Moyes to fail. But some people will play down anything good he does in an attempt to big up Dyche.
 

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The tea leaves have just revealed his future.

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Nope. I was half joking, half genuinely wondering 😂. When does a new manager bounce end? Lampard won 1 game for example. Dyche won 2. Moyes has won 3, but after the first one, is it just down to his management? Or still the bounce? Does it last longer the better the manager? as then that’s surely down to their management?

Dave aside, I don’t think anyone wants Moyes to fail. But some people will play down anything good he does in an attempt to big up Dyche.
Well obviously 'new manager bounce' isn't actually defined, it's just a term used for a short term upturn in form after the manager changes. It could theoretically be 10 games if the form then returns back to the same level as it was before. The idea is that a few changes in training, a clearing of the air, a few tactical tweaks etc can cause the form to improve in the short term but if you then revert back to type it goes down as a 'bounce' rather than a sustained improvement.
 
Well obviously 'new manager bounce' isn't actually defined, it's just a term used for a short term upturn in form after the manager changes. It could theoretically be 10 games if the form then returns back to the same level as it was before. The idea is that a few changes in training, a clearing of the air, a few tactical tweaks etc can cause the form to improve in the short term but if you then revert back to type it goes down as a 'bounce' rather than a sustained improvement.

I also wonder if there is some confirmation bias here. Like we notice when it happens, but not when it doesn't.
 
I also wonder if there is some confirmation bias here. Like we notice when it happens, but not when it doesn't.
Oh yeah definitely, it's pretty much the same as saying a striker's in a purple patch or a team's in a rut or whatever - there's no parameters for it it's just a way of describing something. I'm sure in lots of cases it isn't really an accurate reflection of what's happened but it's just the term we use.
 

Oh yeah definitely, it's pretty much the same as saying a striker's in a purple patch or a team's in a rut or whatever - there's no parameters for it it's just a way of describing something. I'm sure in lots of cases it isn't really an accurate reflection of what's happened but it's just the term we use.

Like RVN got 4 from his first 3 games at Leicester. But has subsequently got 8 defeats in 9 games.

Like is that a new manager bounce?

Factor in as well, the West Ham game they got battered and were lucky.

I just think sometimes a manager gets an improvement. I think that's Moyes really, for all his faults he is better suited to this squad than Dyche, and is probably a better/for rounded manager.
 
I'd be willing to bet good money that if Dyche was still here then at best we'd have got three points out of the last three games. No way do we get anything from Spurs or Brighton. Maybe we'd have fluked a 1-0 over Leicester but I think it very likely that we'd have actually drawn it 1-1 and be sitting one single point clear of the drop zone with no end in sight to the godawful games of football he surved up this season. We'd have been lucky to end the Grand Old Ladys final season with five wins under that moron.
 
I'd be willing to bet good money that if Dyche was still here then at best we'd have got three points out of the last three games. No way do we get anything from Spurs or Brighton. Maybe we'd have fluked a 1-0 over Leicester but I think it very likely that we'd have actually drawn it 1-1 and be sitting one single point clear of the drop zone with no end in sight to the godawful games of football he surved up this season. We'd have been lucky to end the Grand Old Ladys final season with five wins under that moron.
Yeah but it'd be a brilliant spirited draw against Spurs (who hadn't won a game in forever).
 

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