2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[Shibbywiggles]

It's 7 years since we sacked BFS and we are in the same mess as then.
Progress

Pretty sure bfs finished midtable and had a few tidy players in the squad
…we’re in a far worse situation

 

[matty1878]

Let's play this out then they fire Kevin and Dyche same day. Recruit a DoF overnight (weve seen no names seriously connected BTW), than give him oversight to hire a gaffer over the next week? All while having 20 or so days to recruit having not worked on any deals having just took the job?

This is essentially my point of the turmoil that firing Dyche right now invites. I look forward to firing Thelwell and Dyche ultimately, but the position to which we would be doing so right now and seeking a replacement is rife with instability IMO.

keeping a failing manager is making the club instable

 

[matty1878]

surely surely it’s coming?

 

[Charro]

I’ve heard he’s gone.

Realise the reaction I’ll get for this but yeah that’s what I’ve heard.

 

[Marcus Kendall]

surely surely it’s coming?

Fingers crossed Matty

 

[Kurt.]

Bit disappointing reading this thread. Can’t believe in this day and age of economic turmoil and financial struggle people are clamouring for a decent and hard working middle aged man to be sacked and thrown into the dark realms of unemployment. Sad really.

 

[milks]

He didn't even want the job until the following summer, he was more than happy to let us be relegated that season.

That's not true is it? He wanted to start at the end of the season and offered to coach the U23s (working in conjunction with an interim manager) for the remainder of the season so that he could start his process in the summer.

 

[Tipp blue]

What have I missed?

Dyche was caught bumming Dan Friedkin's wife..

 

[windymiller]

Was it Thewell who hired Dyche?

How as a DoF you can have two candidates Bielsa and Dyche! They are complete opposite in style, all our candidates should be very similar in style to marry up to the squad he assembling.

I think he needs to go myself.

Depends who you believe. The rumour is that Moshiri wanted Bielsa, Kenwright wanted Dyche and Thelwell wanted Corberan. Which, if true, sums up the dysfunction at the club.

Stay or go, I'm not bothered but if he's staying he has to be allowed to do his job otherwise it's just more of the same.

 

[Toffe3m4n]

Where’s he flown off the handle? Pointed out that you are rewriting history to make Dyche seem better than he is.

The facts are that Jackson got 3 wins from 8 and only lost 3 times. Dyche had 4 wins from 30 and wasn’t showing signs of turning it round. Pretending that he may have turned it round and that Jackson had lost it by the end and they looked hopeless is pure revisionism.

I mean... no???

I literally offered up a scenario where, in hindsight, Burnley could've stuck with Dyche that season and ended with a similar, if not better, record than Mike Jackson, despite likely still being relegated. Dyche's record throughout his managerial career points to the fact that he tends to end seasons stronger than he finishes them. This is a fact.

I keep getting quoted '4 wins in 30' like I'm not actually aware of that fact - but it doesn't change the idea that another 4 wins in those games that Jackson took wasn't possible at all under Dyche. Just because, in your opinion, you believe he couldn't it doesn't invalidate mine. It's also my opinion that Burnley already looked dead & buried as Jackson's run of games ended - nothing against Jackson personally either.

What's even funnier about this is because I had the gall to offer up a devils advocate view of that particular situation it automatically means I'm a 'Dyche lover' when I'm literally anything but haha my opinion in this has absolutely no baring on what I think Everton Football Club should do about the fella..

It's just been a bit too emotional/touchy in this thread today, which I get to be fair haha.

 

[matty1878]

I’ve heard he’s gone.

Realise the reaction I’ll get for this but yeah that’s what I’ve heard.

you’ve heard rumours like all day and are hoping he will be like the rest of us mate?

 

[matty1878]

Fingers crossed Matty

and my 16 toes and 12 fingers

 

[matty1878]

@wobble come and share your. media guess work

 

[windymiller]

Let's play this out then they fire Kevin and Dyche same day. Recruit a DoF overnight (weve seen no names seriously connected BTW), than give him oversight to hire a gaffer over the next week? All while having 20 or so days to recruit having not worked on any deals having just took the job?

We all arent dumb we know the kind of gaffers circled when its under grounds of surivival. I don't want another negative tactician that now likely gets to dictate a whole squad turnover come summer. Id rather keep the annoying one we have thats a dead man walking.

This is essentially my point of the turmoil that firing Dyche right now invites. I look forward to Thelwell and Dyche soon walking out the door, but the position we would be in if we fired them now is rife with instability IMO.

They should have a plan, they've been in talks to buy the club since June last year. If they haven't gamed out this exact situation then I don't hold much hope for their tenure, tbh.

 

[HSWR]

If he leaves us, don’t think he gets a job at one of the other strugglers and if so, how does he do?

I think this will be the best job he will get from now on which makes those defending him now even more of a worry. Nobody hired him between him leaving Burnley and him coming here, nobody, save a struggling promoted team will give him a job after he leaves and he will struggle to keep them up with these sorts of tactics.

I question whether dyche is going for a payout at this point. A new ownership, his contract is up at the end of the season anyway, which he knows won't get renewed. It's the perfect climate for someone who knows in days or months he isn't staying. Why should he care about our fortunes when he knows he will get another job elsewhere and being sacked means he gets a pay off!