2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[Gilbert..]

We once brought out a DVD called the magnificent 7th.

That was way before social media was as common. And i can remember absolutely slaughtering it on bluekipper.

 

[windymiller]

You always go back to single game examples to try and prove a wider point which is illlogical in itself.

Look at Dyche’s record against Brentford overall. It’s very good. If Mykolenko doesn’t blaze over from a yard out it would have continued.

They dug in, we didn’t make our advantage count and didn’t play very well. You would like to turn it into some big damning indictment of him as a manager though when every other time he’s had the answer vs Frank.

Ok, let's take a large data set:

Sean Dyche has managed 329 premier league games.

He has won 93 of those games and lost 147.

In those games he has scored a total of 322 goals whilst conceding 465.

Do those stats support the idea that he is a winning manager, or even a manager that knows how to set up a team to score goals?

Your example of how he has done against Frank in particular and giving examples of individual player mistakes being the "reason" he didn't beat Brentford. At home. Who played most of the game with 10 men. Is the cherry picking exercise.

You could, of course, just admit he had a bad game. That on that one occasion he got it wrong. But you can't even do that. Which is why you can't claim any objectivity on the subject and why you have become a figure of fun on this forum.

 

[Toffeepot]

I'd question whether you can know this without being down Finch Farm regularly. Apologies of course if you are down there most sessions.

The widely available YouTube videos showing the training sessions seem to indicate they do practice intricate passing and close control but maybe it's just staged?

Of course they do some
By comparison to other teams it is obvious they do not
In the same way we obviously don't practice passing out from the back as much and it shows when we do attempt it
I don't need to be down in Finch farm to make an educated guess as to what a team tends to focus on more in training. It is visible in match. That is what they prepare for

 

[Gilbert..]

It really isn't a mentality thing, it's a content thing. I know a few of the media team at Everton, this sort of stuff isn't something they're told to do (who would be telling them? We don't have a board) it's just them trying to find stuff to post to keep the clicks coming and the social media presence up. Obviously the more successful the club is the easier it is to find positive stuff to post, so no the other clubs you mention probably don't need to mention stuff like that. Genuinely funny pretending that this type of thing started with Dyche though, as if we've all had a men in black style memory blackout of the last 30 years.

Its a 100% mentality thing. Im an Evertonian for 50 years. I wouldnt have posted it. Read the replies underneath it from Everton fans slaughtering it. They wouldnt have posted it.
People who run the clubs social media posted it. Have a think before you click post on the official site.

I'm not gona lose any sleep over it. It just makes us look like tits.

 

[windymiller]

Its Dyche mentality thats got into the club now. I hate the bullsh!t propaganda nonsense. We've scored in 1 game out of the last 6. Not scored away from Goodison in two months. Yet they reel out the Sean Dyche blue print of football on the official account. And as stated. They've cherry picked out a date time. Post stuff like that if its going well overall. Like winning. And scoring.

Napoli, Atalanta the Milan clubs.... they included on their hand picked list. ive not looked but do you reckon those clubs post sh!t like that lol.
Just stop it.
Absolute small time mentality.

To be fair, I would call it the Kenwright mentality. Dyche loves it, no doubt, but this small club mindset pre-dates him. Moshiri carried it on, too, before Dyche was here with his "expected losses" nonsense.

 

[maccavennie]

We once brought out a DVD called the magnificent 7th.

It's my 2nd favourite Everton dvd, just behind the Florida Cup final win dvd which includes extended coverage of Benitez cooking the lads a lovely pasta dish.

 

[Toffeepot]

It’s not even a record either. It’s just a stat within a made up time frame.

Sounds like Dyche and the Dychettes playlist too
Main stage it is not

 

[Toffeepot]

To be fair, I would call it the Kenwright mentality. Dyche loves it, no doubt, but this small club mindset predates him. Moshiri carried it on, too, before Dyche was here with his "expected losses" nonsense.

Moshiri probably carried it on because Bill told him we love it

 

[Gilbert..]

To be fair, I would call it the Kenwright mentality. Dyche loves it, no doubt, but this small club mindset predates him. Moshiri carried it on, too, before Dyche was here with his "expected losses" nonsense.

Well the dyche link is the 0-0. This particular post is gloryfying 0-0s coz we sure as hell arent scoring goals. Thats dyche mentality.

 

[Toffeepot]

It really isn't a mentality thing, it's a content thing. I know a few of the media team at Everton, this sort of stuff isn't something they're told to do (who would be telling them? We don't have a board) it's just them trying to find stuff to post to keep the clicks coming and the social media presence up. Obviously the more successful the club is the easier it is to find positive stuff to post, so no the other clubs you mention probably don't need to mention stuff like that. Genuinely funny pretending that this type of thing started with Dyche though, as if we've all had a men in black style memory blackout of the last 30 years.

That's true
Dyche loves it too though
That's why after nearly 2 years he finally learned that every game is important. Delighted with himself at that insight too

 

[Lanolin]

Its a 100% mentality thing. Im an Evertonian for 50 years. I wouldnt have posted it. Read the replies underneath it from Everton fans slaughtering it. They wouldnt have posted it.
People who run the clubs social media posted it. Have a think before you click post on the official site.

I'm not gona lose any sleep over it. It just makes us look like tits.

Like I said, it's not 'mentality' in that sense, it's just a case of being told to regularly post positive content to drive engagement in a social media age and not actually having a lot of stuff to be positive about. It's all very well saying you and Tommy from tocky wouldn't have posted it, but it's not your job is it? Its just the same as them posting happy birthday to former players and stuff, it's the social media equivalent of filler in traditional media. They can't only post when there's something genuinely good to say because then they'd only tweet 3 times a year.

 

[matty1878]

it’s ok forget thefirst 3 months of thes season it didn’t happen aye

who ever did this needs to go with dyche

 

[Tommy Chong]

To be fair, I would call it the Kenwright mentality. Dyche loves it, no doubt, but this small club mindset pre-dates him. Moshiri carried it on, too, before Dyche was here with his "expected losses" nonsense.

The Moyes era: 'Bringing a pen knife to a nuclear atomic bomb fight' mentality when going to Old Trafford comes to mind.

 

[Charro]

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it’s ok forget thefirst 3 months of thes season it didn’t happen aye

who ever did this needs to go with dyche

So you’re advocating sacking someone who is probably just a social media admin?

 

[matty1878]

So you’re advocating sacking someone who is probably just a social media admin?

ye it’s woan.