New Everton Owners: The Friedkin Group

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How many football managers don't get fired? Very few.
Amazing really, isn't it? In what other line of work can you get fired everywhere you go and people are still (reasonably) keen to hire you...

Well, the luck of Jose is that he mostly won titles in these 1-3 years he spent in a club and has a big reputation from Inter, Chelsea or Porto before. That keeps him still getting appointments at known clubs like Roma or Fenerbahce.

Otherwise he would have gone the Benitez path easily.
 
Well, the luck of Jose is that he mostly won titles in these 1-3 years he spent in a club and has a big reputation from Inter, Chelsea or Porto before. That keeps him still getting appointments at known clubs like Roma or Fenerbahce.

Otherwise he would have gone the Benitez path easily.
My post was more a general rumination on football management itself rather than a dig at José specifically fwiw.
 
My post was more a general rumination on football management itself rather than a dig at José specifically fwiw.
I get that. Tbh I have the same problem with that former top class players like Rooney or Henry that are worse managers than Dyche keep getting appointed, because they have a big name and not because of their good work as a manager.
 
On the takeover, the deal is agreed for the 94.1% and signed, otherwise we would not have got this far. Agreement of other shareholders is a formality, albeit a possible 14 day delay, but unlikely to be needed.

They’ll have my vote for sure, I’m pretty certain the 200+ members of the Shareholders association will support it too, we all want what is best for the club, wouldn’t mind an AGM as well.
 

Before Moshiri we couldn't rub two brass farthings together never mind build a stadium, especially one of this calibre.

It took a mad man to dream that big and somehow we managed to do it despite the world events that simply no one saw coming when the plans were being worked on. It's not his fault covid happened and drove up costs and materials. Not his fault there was a war in Ukraine that stripped our funding. Not his fault Liz Truss drove up interest rates with a hair brain scheme. It was enough to wipe anyone out and say stop, he didn't though.

Obviously he gets an F for on pitch matters, well maybe a an E due to getting Ancelotti and James. In the grand scale once this period is long forgotten, he gets an A for delivering the stadium and taking a 500m hit in the process. If TFG take any remaining debt away, then we got a stadium for free and all the increased income can go to making the team better.

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As opposed to giving away all of our brass farthings and about 1 billion more we didn't have.
 
Well, the luck of Jose is that he mostly won titles in these 1-3 years he spent in a club and has a big reputation from Inter, Chelsea or Porto before. That keeps him still getting appointments at known clubs like Roma or Fenerbahce.

Otherwise he would have gone the Benitez path easily.
Well, if he comes here, he'll certainly be going the Benitez path.
 
As opposed to giving away all of our brass farthings and about 1 billion more we didn't have.

We did have it at the time. The stadium was supposed to cost 400-500m, of which we were going to get 300m back in sponsorship. And if you plan for the what ifs you end up in a stadium that isn't fit for purpose. And you go from being one of the top 5 clubs in the country to an irrelevance.

Of course we chose the exact worst time, saying that we could have held off and waited 10 years, nothing happened and then you go for it and at that point everything blows up in your face. That's life.

United are going to have to come up with over 2 billion, Newcastle, Villa, Birmingham and anyone else who fancies a shot at the top will have to spend over a billion now. It was dicey for sure but we took the chance and come out okay. Not sure why you would spend time lamenting on it.
 
Before Moshiri we couldn't rub two brass farthings together never mind build a stadium, especially one of this calibre.

It took a mad man to dream that big and somehow we managed to do it despite the world events that simply no one saw coming when the plans were being worked on. It's not his fault covid happened and drove up costs and materials. Not his fault there was a war in Ukraine that stripped our funding. Not his fault Liz Truss drove up interest rates with a hair brain scheme. It was enough to wipe anyone out and say stop, he didn't though.

Obviously he gets an F for on pitch matters, well maybe a an E due to getting Ancelotti and James. In the grand scale once this period is long forgotten, he gets an A for delivering the stadium and taking a 500m hit in the process. If TFG take any remaining debt away, then we got a stadium for free and all the increased income can go to making the team better.

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The reality - and people will hate this right now - is that history will judge Moshiri in a far kinder way that we would judge him now.

With the perspective of time - i.e, nearly 150 years of club history - Moshiri's legacy will be the stadium. That makes him the most significant custodian of the club since John Moores.

Kenwright's era will be considered one of decline, diminution, and stagnation. He has no tangibe legacy. Moshiri was largely disastrous - but the 8 years that he wasted will be judge more favourably than the 17 Kenwright did - and there's a gleaming megastructure on the river to point at to boot.

Thank God this era is about to end. And thank God we have a beautiful new home that we desperately needed as a club.
 
On the takeover, the deal is agreed for the 94.1% and signed, otherwise we would not have got this far. Agreement of other shareholders is a formality, albeit a possible 14 day delay, but unlikely to be needed.

They’ll have my vote for sure, I’m pretty certain the 200+ members of the Shareholders association will support it too, we all want what is best for the club, wouldn’t mind an AGM as well.
Colin Chong wrote to us shareholders about 10 days ago to say we would receive a letter asking us to vote. As you say it's a formality. The letter hasn't landed yet though ,at least not in my case.
 

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