New Everton Owners: The Friedkin Group

[Zatara]

Hello!

Dan Ashworth leaves Man Utd after just five months as Newcastle move backfires

Dan Ashworth only joined Manchester United in the summer following his exit from Newcastle - but he has already left Old Trafford in what has been reported as a mutual decision from all parties

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Dan Ashworth is leaving United!


You know what to do Friedkins.

Paid the price for an awful summer and woeful start to the season.

Dan Ashworth is the biggest myth in world football.

Brighton were actually better after he left though, same with England, then he went to Newcastle and they spent loads but didn't sell and balance the books which has left them with PSR issues. @Exeter_Gently is correct if you go through his career, he seems to be a bit of a myth and Utd are clearly not happy with him about something and they appear to be the ones that are pushing him out.

Putting a few things to the side, is it fair to say that perhaps DOFs can be judged on:

A: Transfers in/out
B: Appointing managers
C: Youth development
D: PSR and other regulations

With us having so many cooks (Owner, CEO, Manager) interfering with DOFs...Newcastle seemingly having similar issues and United going off piste alot...and Brighton perhaps being run like an analytical computer game;

Is it possible that this is why DOFs typically arent successful in England?

Left to their own devices in Europe and given time they are able to build something if theyre good...in England it seems like an entirely different mandate aside from clubs like City and Villa who both have elite managers.

 

[UltraVires]

If you are after a CEO why wouldn`t you go and get Christian Purslow, turned Villa around big time on his watch.

Because he is happy where he is most likely and wouldn’t want to come.

 

[Blue Willy]

Bugger Ashworth. Just buy Brighton’s staff.

 

[Bedfordblue]

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Fair cop, he turned them from perennial strugglers to top of the league. Oh wait…..

 

[ForeverEverton]

Because he is happy where he is most likely and wouldn’t want to come.

He isn`t anywhere... currently out of work I believe...

 

[Mickey]

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Who is their DOF goat?. We should hire him and give him full control of player purchases and development and not let managers and owners interfere and over rule him.

 

[nonstripdzebra]

Regardless on if TFG clean shop immediately I would be wary of a whole lot of business in January simply from the transition speed. I dont care how much of a good hire we make at Manager or DoF I don't want to mirror current United and us in the not so recent past in which timelines are skewed for immediate impulses. It seems obvious to me but considering the amount the mistake perpetuates it seems worthy of repeating. Don't hire a manager before a DoF, build a stylistic framework for your side and hire and sign to support those schemes that can withstand turnover in squads and managers.

I can take some mistakes and incompetence, but I really don't want to repeat changing wholesale approach to suit a singular managerial tenure. If a gaffer does well and gets poached we should look for the closest stylistic comp oppose to the flashiest name who may write off 1/3rd of a squad for tactical misalignment.

The canvas is going to be as blank as it can in modern football to build in a vision from scratch. We'd be wise not to botch that opportunity.

 

[nonstripdzebra]

Putting a few things to the side, is it fair to say that perhaps DOFs can be judged on:

A: Transfers in/out
B: Appointing managers
C: Youth development
D: PSR and other regulations

With us having so many cooks (Owner, CEO, Manager) interfering with DOFs...Newcastle seemingly having similar issues and United going off piste alot...and Brighton perhaps being run like an analytical computer game;

Is it possible that this is why DOFs typically arent successful in England?

Left to their own devices in Europe and given time they are able to build something if theyre good...in England it seems like an entirely different mandate aside from clubs like City and Villa who both have elite managers.

I think the success in City, Brighton and Liverpool in regards to that is that those clubs are bought in entirely on a stylistic approach and the recruitment and managerial hires are made through that lense. Track record also obviously resources help that but I think the relationships internally are more harmonious because the primary reason someone like Hurzeler or Slot were brought in is because of a belief in the amount of overlap with the ship already. Conversely both those managers i'm sure were attracted to the job because of the amount of shared beliefs and expertise the club had demonstrated. Mutual success that fosters mutual belief in either's POV but it stems from a administered club vision that the manager is aiding and not the other way around.

This is why when I see DoF's who inherit a manager or change the criteria in what they are looking for, the DoF often ends up being completely de-legitimized in their stature at a club. I think managers are often emotional hires, often risk averse being rationalized specifically in England on what they've done in England and their social/media acumen. The wise clubs are being more scrupulous and analytical in gaffers. I think there's becoming an awareness that talent in that realm rightfully will exist everywhere. But in regards to longterm stability and eventual success I think an empowered DoF at Everton is necessary.

 

[UltraVires]

He isn`t anywhere... currently out of work I believe...

I thought he was leading a big NY business of some kind. Was he not interviewed on sky sports news not long ago from NY? Maybe that was someone else.

 

[Librarian]

Sign up fellas

 

[matty1878]

Regardless on if TFG clean shop immediately I would be wary of a whole lot of business in January simply from the transition speed. I dont care how much of a good hire we make at Manager or DoF I don't want to mirror current United and us in the not so recent past in which timelines are skewed for immediate impulses. It seems obvious to me but considering the amount the mistake perpetuates it seems worthy of repeating. Don't hire a manager before a DoF, build a stylistic framework for your side and hire and sign to support those schemes that can withstand turnover in squads and managers.

I can take some mistakes and incompetence, but I really don't want to repeat changing wholesale approach to suit a singular managerial tenure. If a gaffer does well and gets poached we should look for the closest stylistic comp oppose to the flashiest name who may write off 1/3rd of a squad for tactical misalignment.

The canvas is going to be as blank as it can in modern football to build in a vision from scratch. We'd be wise not to botch that opportunity.

we need players tho in jan mate

we need the manager first and foremost

 

[BrendanGOT]

Dan Ashworth wanted Southgate at United. No thanks

 

[PeregrineT]

Fair cop, he turned them from perennial strugglers to top of the league. Oh wait…..
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I mean, they won the title 3 of hist last 4 years....then as you showed couldnt win a single year while he was gone, and now are going to win back-to-back.

Clearly hes making an impact, just a question of how much he could make in other leagues.

 

[marnie]

KINELL It's like an Internaional break in here FFS.

 

[Bedfordblue]

I mean, they won the title 3 of hist last 4 years....then as you showed couldnt win a single year while he was gone, and now are going to win back-to-back.

Clearly hes making an impact, just a question of how much he could make in other leagues.

Well he was at the helm for the period we managed to get the highest ever point deduction dished out by the EPL and delivered some of the biggest financial losses in the competitions history on his watch.
Certainly made an impact here.
But of course it wasn’t his fault, he just took his £1m a year and sat on his hands in the corner of the board room.