2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[Harryflashman]

….10-1 looks big, but I’m restricted to 20p with Sky because of my Cheltenham winnings;

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I think with Leicester making the change West Ham are close to pulling the trigger , if we’d have even been half interested in winning that game against them he might have already gone . So it’s waiting for that decision but if West Ham make a move I think anything near that price is great value .

 

[blueboy72]

I`d save your 20p until the takeover gets done because it certainly looks like no one seems bothered enough with how bad we are to sack him. As soon as a takeover is completed that price will probably dissapear quite quickly, and hopefully so will Dyche and his staff.

Think it’s a good price I can only see Martin at Southampton Leaving anytime soon. Yes the West Ham guy is under pressure. But I think as a new boss they may give him a bit more time

 

[John from Bootle]

There will be continuity for sure mate, be stupid for there not to be and i dont think TFG are that.

Personally still believe they will all they can, not to sack him, but ultimately it will be governed by the risk of relegation in my opinion.

I can't see them keeping him mate. I've always been uncomfortable discussing our next manager unless we've actually just sacked one or I feel we should sack.

New owners are a game changer though. History shows us they will want their own man, though that's not to say they will sack him on day one. Saying that though, he can't not win one of the next 2 and stay, surely?

I've heard people say Moshiri won't fire him. As CEO (however temporary) does Colin have the authority to fire him without FM's approval, or would he effectively have to say sack him or I resign my position? I have no idea how these things work.

 

[kiss the crest]

What is it?

The club are fully behind Dyche

 

[Harryflashman]

The club are fully behind Dyche

The club you say

 

[ToffeeScot]

We need the new owners in as soon as possible so he can be let go. Manager's like Dyche have a shelf life and he's reaching his much sooner than I thought he would.

 

[Neiler]

I can't see them keeping him mate. I've always been uncomfortable discussing our next manager unless we've actually just sacked one or I feel we should sack.

New owners are a game changer though. History shows us they will want their own man, though that's not to say they will sack him on day one. Saying that though he can't lose the next 2 and stay surely?

I've heard people say Moshiri won't fire him. As CEO (however temporary) does Colin have the authority to fire him without FM's approval, or would he effectively have to say sack him or I resign my position? I have no idea how these things work.

There wont be any firing until the take over that's for sure mate - neither side will want to eat the cost, i know it goes on the clubs books - but from a cashflow point of view its coming of someone bottom line and in the vacuum neither is going to want to eat it.

In truth no one including myself, can talk on authority, trend or even educated guess on what the TFG might do. We're simply feeling our way in the dark. I think its actually a difficult situation for TFG to be in as they walk immediately into a difficult decision and have to manage risk- be interesting to see how they manage it and what they do. Id personally be surprised if they sack him, the least line of resistance is to add players and improve outcomes. But i really dont know.

In terms of authority, its only the board on the advice of the shareholders who can make the decision. In reality in our position, TFG will be prompting that or assenting to it - they influenced the vote with PL last week, so already are having an influence on decision making. So in theory, either the new or old shareholder can prompt it - but i doubt either will - because one or the other will have to eat the cost and there isn't the time to work that out.

For example TFG say, Farhad sack Dyche, Moshiri says, yeah ok - but what happens if the takeover falls through - will you commit 5 -10 mill to the balance sheet to cover it - TFG says no - so Moshiri says no as he wont eat the cost and nothing changes - the take over will happen quicker.

 

[NathDogg]

That statistic is wrong…we got 22 points from 18 games between Jan-May and we have 11 points from 12 games Aug-Nov.
It’s 33 points from 30 games at a rate of 1.10 ppg.

I think it is unfair on Dyche for Boyland to subtract the PL points deductions from the actual results for the whole of 2024.

I can’t stand Dyche but this is highly misleading.

It's not unfair, it's disgusting. He knows a lot of people will take it as fact and it will soon become 'urban legend'.

Boylands had enough of him.

Get the feeling Dyche has given paddy a clip round the earole after a presser, mistaking him for paddyson, so paddy has got his revenge in print.

Let’s be honest though chaps, although I agree it’s a little disingenuous from the journo, the true stats/numbers are just as disgusting /depressing arent they…..

 

[John from Bootle]

Boylands had enough of him.

Get the feeling Dyche has given paddy a clip round the earole after a presser, mistaking him for paddyson, so paddy has got his revenge in print.

Let’s be honest though chaps, although I agree it’s a little disingenuous from the journo, the true stats/numbers are just as disgusting /depressing arent they…..

It's not good enough. The start of the season has put him under pressure. A better start and we can probably take a couple of 0-0's on the chin. If his methods are gonna prove any use to us, he now needs to make it three clean sheets in a row.

 

[John from Bootle]

There wont be any firing until the take over that's for sure mate - neither side will want to eat the cost, i know it goes on the clubs books - but from a cashflow point of view its coming of someone bottom line and in the vacuum neither is going to want to eat it.

In truth no one including myself, can talk on authority, trend or even educated guess on what the TFG might do. We're simply feeling our way in the dark. I think its actually a difficult situation for TFG to be in as they walk immediately into a difficult decision and have to manage risk- be interesting to see how they manage it and what they do. Id personally be surprised if they sack him, the least line of resistance is to add players and improve outcomes. But i really dont know.

In terms of authority, its only the board on the advice of the shareholders who can make the decision. In reality in our position, TFG will be prompting that or assenting to it - they influenced the vote with PL last week, so already are having an influence on decision making. So in theory, either the new or old shareholder can prompt it - but i doubt either will - because one or the other will have to eat the cost and there isn't the time to work that out.

For example TFG say, Farhad sack Dyche, Moshiri says, yeah ok - but what happens if the takeover falls through - will you commit 5 -10 mill to the balance sheet to cover it - TFG says no - so Moshiri says no as he wont eat the cost and nothing changes - the take over will happen quicker.

I know what you're saying mate but if we hit a horror run now, and they leave him in place, I genuinely fear he might get lynched at Goodison.

 

[matty1878]

There wont be any firing until the take over that's for sure mate - neither side will want to eat the cost, i know it goes on the clubs books - but from a cashflow point of view its coming of someone bottom line and in the vacuum neither is going to want to eat it.

In truth no one including myself, can talk on authority, trend or even educated guess on what the TFG might do. We're simply feeling our way in the dark. I think its actually a difficult situation for TFG to be in as they walk immediately into a difficult decision and have to manage risk- be interesting to see how they manage it and what they do. Id personally be surprised if they sack him, the least line of resistance is to add players and improve outcomes. But i really dont know.

In terms of authority, its only the board on the advice of the shareholders who can make the decision. In reality in our position, TFG will be prompting that or assenting to it - they influenced the vote with PL last week, so already are having an influence on decision making. So in theory, either the new or old shareholder can prompt it - but i doubt either will - because one or the other will have to eat the cost and there isn't the time to work that out.

For example TFG say, Farhad sack Dyche, Moshiri says, yeah ok - but what happens if the takeover falls through - will you commit 5 -10 mill to the balance sheet to cover it - TFG says no - so Moshiri says no as he wont eat the cost and nothing changes - the take over will happen quicker.

cost of remaining in this league outweighs utterly everything

its gathering pace now that dyche is on the tightrope

he will soon fall

 

[NathDogg]

I know what you're saying mate but if we hit a horror run now, and they leave him in place, I genuinely fear he might get lynched at Goodison.

We’re in a horror run now, im not having this 1 defeat in 8 crap as a sign of good things.

We need some unexpected wins big time, regardless of performances. Hope we ge them, for all our sakes including the managers, as much as I’ve got zero time for him.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

That statistic is wrong…we got 22 points from 18 games between Jan-May and we have 11 points from 12 games Aug-Nov.
It’s 33 points from 30 games at a rate of 1.10 ppg.

I think it is unfair on Dyche for Boyland to subtract the PL points deductions from the actual results for the whole of 2024.

I can’t stand Dyche but this is highly misleading.

Aye, I make it the same.

 

[everton1953]

Lynching is a bit over the top. I know you mean verbal lynching and not the type once common in the US. I think the crowd apathy makes a verbal lynching unlikely. So we carry on living in hope new owners kick him out, hopefully before we get into serious relegation trouble.

 

[Iana]

Boylands had enough of him.

Get the feeling Dyche has given paddy a clip round the earole after a presser, mistaking him for paddyson, so paddy has got his revenge in print.

Let’s be honest though chaps, although I agree it’s a little disingenuous from the journo, the true stats/numbers are just as disgusting /depressing arent they…..

I agree but let’s use the real data(as poor as it is) rather than making it up.
Dyche ppg at Everton is on a downward trajectory and that’s the worry.
His ppg is 1.18 over 68 games at Everton.
His ppg is 1.10 over the last 38 games(23/24 and 24/25 seasons).
His ppg over 12 games this season is 0.91.

I think I will do a rolling 38 game average after each game from now on!