Regardless of his comments towards the club, which are very condescending imo, I would like him to do well as in turn Everton would do well.
It’s quite clear he’s not going to change to better results or perhaps he can’t change.
Bloody hell, it’s been a long weekend I’m just making things up nowI must have missed that one mate![]()
Sorry for the rant.
This is a fair point of view because at the end of the day we want Everton to do well. We're not doing well. We're just not getting the results. A draw is a point and it's not a loss. So we're getting the bare minimum. It seems to be acceptable for Dyche to keep his job. It's not acceptable for me I've already made up my mind on Dyche. But it's acceptable for the people/supporters who seem to be of the opinion just staying up until we get to Bramley Moore is what life is all about this season.
It's really dumb. It's scandalous. I don't know who is perpetuating this 'ideal'. But let's get one thing straight, we are NOT some yo-yo club that are happy to stay in the division we are not some lower league club content with survival. People out there are putting out this point of view it's even come from the football club themselves.
Let's be clear, Everton Football Club should be challenging for titles and if we're not we should be challenging Europe and trying to win trophies. This idea that that getting to BM is the end game is nonsensical. It means absolutely nothing. In the long term it might be a game changer for us but in the short term this is dissmissing this season as a waste, and it's highly irresponsible from people at this club if this is what they are suggesting (IE if this is what Sean Dyche's requirements are for the season from Thelwell).
I won't accept it. I hope most right minded Everton fans don't accept it either. The football club has put this spell on people and it comes from the Kenwright days, that we, Everton Football Club, do not challenge for titles and win trophies, that we are somehow there to just exist and make up the numbers.
When I say the Kenwright days, I mean the latter days. Kenwright in the earlier days with Moyes really did push us. But in his later days (without knowing the man personally) he clearly had a different mindset. It was just about clinging on to his position. Fast forward and we are a sad club with its guts strewn all over the place. As a result of the poor way the club has been run in recent years. Waiting. Waiting for TFG and waiting for BM. But in the meantime just going through the motions. Waiting. It's a slow death right now.
Sorry for the rant.
This is a fair point of view because at the end of the day we want Everton to do well. We're not doing well. We're just not getting the results. A draw is a point and it's not a loss. So we're getting the bare minimum. It seems to be acceptable for Dyche to keep his job. It's not acceptable for me I've already made up my mind on Dyche. But it's acceptable for the people/supporters who seem to be of the opinion just staying up until we get to Bramley Moore is what life is all about this season.
It's really dumb. It's scandalous. I don't know who is perpetuating this 'ideal'. But let's get one thing straight, we are NOT some yo-yo club that are happy to stay in the division we are not some lower league club content with survival. People out there are putting out this point of view it's even come from the football club themselves.
Let's be clear, Everton Football Club should be challenging for titles and if we're not we should be challenging Europe and trying to win trophies. This idea that that getting to BM is the end game is nonsensical. It means absolutely nothing. In the long term it might be a game changer for us but in the short term this is dissmissing this season as a waste, and it's highly irresponsible from people at this club if this is what they are suggesting (IE if this is what Sean Dyche's requirements are for the season from Thelwell).
I won't accept it. I hope most right minded Everton fans don't accept it either. The football club has put this spell on people and it comes from the Kenwright days, that we, Everton Football Club, do not challenge for titles and win trophies, that we are somehow there to just exist and make up the numbers.
When I say the Kenwright days, I mean the latter days. Kenwright in the earlier days with Moyes really did push us. But in his later days (without knowing the man personally) he clearly had a different mindset. It was just about clinging on to his position. Fast forward and we are a sad club with its guts strewn all over the place. As a result of the poor way the club has been run in recent years. Waiting. Waiting for TFG and waiting for BM. But in the meantime just going through the motions. Waiting. It's a slow death right now.
Can only see it getting worse through December. If yesterday is anything to go by we will probably struggle at home to Wolves as well. The 1 loss in 8 isn't a positive given some of the teams we have faced compared to the next month. We really needed to get more wins on the board than we have done coming into December because this month could be ugly.
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Couldn't agree more mate, 3-5-2 has to worth trying with the players we have, it gives us width, allows us to have 2 up front without being swamped in midfield. Not happening while Dyche is here though, he has neither the desire, nor the ability to work on a new system on the training ground. He is reluctant to step out of his comfort zone. The other problem is a 3-5-2 would very quickly become a 5-3-2 under Dyche.The man can't beat a 10 man Brentford at home.
He's totally out of his depth and he knows he is just keeping the seat warm now.
He is incapable of changing a game tactically. Yesterday he went to a 4-4-2 and we threatened less because the chance was quite clearly 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 so keep the pressure on and create width. He is blinded by scraping games to maintain his
This is the issue. Because we are the worst team to watch in the Premier League, (and perhaps in the EFL as well, I think you'd struggle to see worse) if we don't get results the manager is going to be under massive pressure. He is on that recognisable downward spiral where the manager talks about the players and the tactics as if he has nothing to do with it. If we had a stable board I have no doubt he'd have been sacked after we lost to Southampton.The results will always be the main thing and they are dire…. and when you combine that with his woeful style of football and the unnecessarily antagonistic and excuse-making interviews, it really doesn’t leave him with much to rely on.
Probably drinking hot ribena with a flat cap. Feet up on his desk on after walk around some hills with his dogs, proper English dogs, none of them forrin muck things.Is he still here?
Just for the record, I can’t stand the fella and I want him out immediatelySorry for the rant.
This is a fair point of view because at the end of the day we want Everton to do well. We're not doing well. We're just not getting the results. A draw is a point and it's not a loss. So we're getting the bare minimum. It seems to be acceptable for Dyche to keep his job. It's not acceptable for me I've already made up my mind on Dyche. But it's acceptable for the people/supporters who seem to be of the opinion just staying up until we get to Bramley Moore is what life is all about this season.
It's really dumb. It's scandalous. I don't know who is perpetuating this 'ideal'. But let's get one thing straight, we are NOT some yo-yo club that are happy to stay in the division we are not some lower league club content with survival. People out there are putting out this point of view it's even come from the football club themselves.
Let's be clear, Everton Football Club should be challenging for titles and if we're not we should be challenging Europe and trying to win trophies. This idea that that getting to BM is the end game is nonsensical. It means absolutely nothing. In the long term it might be a game changer for us but in the short term this is dissmissing this season as a waste, and it's highly irresponsible from people at this club if this is what they are suggesting (IE if this is what Sean Dyche's requirements are for the season from Thelwell).
I won't accept it. I hope most right minded Everton fans don't accept it either. The football club has put this spell on people and it comes from the Kenwright days, that we, Everton Football Club, do not challenge for titles and win trophies, that we are somehow there to just exist and make up the numbers.
When I say the Kenwright days, I mean the latter days. Kenwright in the earlier days with Moyes really did push us. But in his later days (without knowing the man personally) he clearly had a different mindset. It was just about clinging on to his position. Fast forward and we are a sad club with its guts strewn all over the place. As a result of the poor way the club has been run in recent years. Waiting. Waiting for TFG and waiting for BM. But in the meantime just going through the motions. Waiting. It's a slow death right now.