2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[Bluewolf]

As you can see in my comments

I attributed blame where it was due:

Are you a AI?

I agree with you

 

[matty1878]

I like your confidence: unfortunately I don't share it.

A 0-3 LOSS at home to Brighton.
A 4-0 LOSS away to Spurs.
A 2-3 LOSS at home to Bournemouth (surrendering a 2-0 lead at the death)
A 2-3 LOSS away to Villa ( surrendering another 2-0 lead).

Individually, we can make excuses. But together?

I know that there are ONLY 19 better teams than us.

My cards on the table... I say sack him now. Yesterday!
But please, tell me... when would you call for a change?

lose to leicester and the hardens of fans will have had enough

 

[degsy]

What if Branthwaite gets sold? Do we just accept relegation under this manager?

It doesn't even have to be that drastic - a drop off in his form due to 2nd season syndrome would do it.
This might be exacerbated by Tarks not being as good as he was last season...this fact alone might do it, nevermind 2nd season syndrome

 

[Gilbert..]

Has the whole defence just collapsed without branthwaite? Has it collapsed with just the inclusion of Keane?
If dyche isnt shutting the back door then whats the point of him. Isnt that his forte? Being hard to beat.
If he doesnt sort this out we're gone. No team ever ships that many goals and survives.

 

[NorthernBlue]

In normal circumstances the next game would be a must win or the manager gets the boot. But this is Everton and who knows anymore.

 

[matty1878]

In normal circumstances the next game would be a must win or the manager gets the boot. But this is Everton and who knows anymore.

3 months last season answers it

but if text guy really wants to sort us

he’s gotta act as soon as he’s allowed

 

[Neiler]

We're conceding goals because the manager insists on picking failed players like Michael Keane and past-it players like Ashley Young. That Seamus Coleman is the alternative tells you everything about the derelicition of duty in team planning that the manager HAS to take at least SOME responsibility for. After all, we did spend money in other areas.

Picking Keane and Young is on the manager. Not having better alternatives to Young is also partially on the manager.

But I do agree: these players are cowards. That's not all on the manager. He just needs to start accepting that some of these cowards will never be any sort of solution. When he does that, then some of us can start to blame circumstances rather than his own pig-headeded stubborness for this car crash of a season.

He and Thelwell took a calculated gamble in the summer on Young, Coleman and Patterson and its backfired horribly, they also took a gamble on Myko and that back fired horribly as well - no doubt - they redirected resources elsewhere - but again we're in the position of managing that by a lack of resources and thats on how the club is managed. Those resources arent different for anyone else.I watch Ireland as i no dobht know you do, ive seen a fair bit of O'Brien, id play Keane over him to - presently thats the only decision available to be made.

I suspect he does the fragile mentality of the players, if i am critising the manager i think he's been disarmed by some of the attitude and mentality seen this season, they reverted to type and i think hes already conveyed frustration about it - climbing mountains again of lessons they should have learned. But ultimately he has to work with this group in the main, because we sure as Sh,... dont have the resources for a clean sweep.

Heres the thing though, we were talking last night about conceding and Keneda made the point that - that in away games Tim gets over run and we are missing the third body in midfield - yet we have looked more clinical and creative going forward - playing with a front four instead of having the extra man in the middle - Doucoure. Now we probably would be more soiled with Garner and Doucoure back in the team, Tim going out of it and one of the front four sacrificed - so if that and shored things up we got points on the board would people be happy - no they would go apoplectic for dropping Tim and one of the front 4. People want their cake and it to a degree as well.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Has the whole defence just collapsed without branthwaite? Has it collapsed with just the inclusion of Keane?
If dyche isnt shutting the back door then whats the point of him. Isnt that his forte? Being hard to beat.
If he doesnt sort this out we're gone. No team ever ships that many goals and survives.

Branthwaite is a £100m CB for a reason. Take him out and put in Keane or Holgate and this is what happens to a teams defence.

Having no decent full back in the squad is also a major issue.

Replacing a £50m Belgian International midfielder with a £10m FFP swap kid is also a major issue.

Dithering with subs aside, Sean Dyche is not the problem. Injuries and chronic lack of investment in the playing squad in recent seasons is.

 

[Leylo]

Its rubbish mate, not even our barn pot of club run as Badly as it is would put a clause in a contract for a manager we probably expected to have to sack at some point anyway.

Also dyche himself said he absolutely jumped at the chance to manage us so cant see him pushing for that clause either.

Probably right mate but everyone was talking about it yesterday wasn't convinced myself like

 

[GoldenToffee]

Branthwaite is a £100m CB for a reason. Take him out and put in Keane or Holgate and this is what happens to a teams defence.

Having no decent full back in the squad is also a major issue.

Replacing a £50m Belgian International midfielder with a £10m FFP swap kid is also a major issue.

Dithering with subs aside, Sean Dyche is not the problem. Injuries and chronic lack of investment in the playing squad in recent seasons is.

You've highlighted all the issues tbf, but Dyche is also a huge problem that isn't improving as he refuses to acknowledge that certain players are finished. Most other would not be starting Coleman, Young or Keane, yet if all three were fit and Branthwaite and Mykolenko is injured, the that's 3/4 of our staying defence with Patterson and O'Brien warming the bench.

Due to the extreme drop off when Keane comes in and with no decent full backs, a smart manager would change system out of sheer necessity.

 

[Victus]

If we'd have not done that against Bournemouth I could have accepted getting beat by Villa I think. That Bournemouth result was the final nail for so many people with him and the club in general I think.

 

[Thomasc]

If we'd have not done that against Bournemouth I could have accepted getting beat by Villa I think. That Bournemouth result was the final nail for so many people with him and the club in general I think.

Yet he’s still here.

We aren’t hard to beat. He has absolutely nothing in the tank. He brings nothing to the party.

 

[Blue peter]

Gardening leave?

I can imagine it now, need to repot the plants, but he won’t do it

 

[degsy]

lose to leicester and the hardens of fans will have had enough

I'm done now!
Remember this

The aim of the game was to get rid of - a liability.




The modern version
3 (league)games to survive and weeks to do the sounding out groundwork etc with whoever.
2 week for the new guy to prepare
1 minute to sack him

 

[Blue peter]

Well legally I think that would constitute dismissal.
But just get a joint manager, defer their wages and then let Dyche put the cones out.

Not sure it would mate as he would just be finishing his contract on gardening leave not being released early (other than he Ont be fulfilling his duties)