Relegation 23/24 Thread

JimEFC_2 · December 9, 2023

LucBesson said:
Exactly - if it's 3 out of 7 or 8, we'll be more than fine. We should be 9th let's not forget. We're the best of the bunch you mention.

Definitely that, yes. Essentially we're going into a Chelsea game above them in the league.
They all have to play each other and so they can''t all win.
I think we won 9 games last season. We've won 6 already this time. Luton + Burnley + Sheff Utd also also have 6 wins....combined.

Victus · December 10, 2023

JimEFC_2 said:
Definitely that, yes. Essentially we're going into a Chelsea game above them in the league.
They all have to play each other and so they can''t all win.
I think we won 9 games last season. We've won 6 already this time. Luton + Burnley + Sheff Utd also also have 6 wins....combined.

8 wins 12 draws. Also took us 26 games to score 19 goals last season, how on earth did we stay up.

Gallaeo · December 10, 2023

jjefc06 said:
Do people seriously think we’re in the relegation fight???

Right now, ye

RomanReigns · December 10, 2023

tomorrow we sail clear!

knowing your history · December 10, 2023

Victus said:
8 wins 12 draws. Also took us 26 games to score 19 goals last season, how on earth did we stay up.

It was a better start than people remember (well after the first two games).

That October-Feb period was appalling though. Luckily Dyche three 1-0s in his first four at Goodison but it then reverted back to poor up to kick off at Brighton.

By most metrics should've gone down last season but timing when in relegation battle is this club's forte and made the managerial chance at the last possible moment it needed to be done to give a realistic chance of staying up and then got the crucial wins just in time aswell.

Victus · December 10, 2023

knowing your history said:
It was a better start than people remember (well after the first two games).

That October-Feb period was appalling though. Luckily Dyche three 1-0s in his first four at Goodison but it then reverted back to poor up to kick off at Brighton.

By most metrics should've gone down last season but timing when in relegation battle is this club's forte and made the managerial chance at the last possible moment it needed to be done to give a realistic chance of staying up and then got the crucial wins just in time aswell.

That 4-1 defeat to Brighton at home may have been the angriest I have ever been with Everton. I remember slamming my door so hard in frustration as the 4th went in, probably the worst performance since Watford. However I think the Newcastle game was the one I genuinely thought we were gone for the first time.

Sitting in 19th having not won for 6 games and only propped up by a few draws was truly awful.

larbert toffee · December 10, 2023

Gallaeo said:
Right now, ye

No they don't.

MikeH72 · December 10, 2023

Victus said:
That 4-1 defeat to Brighton at home may have been the angriest I have ever been with Everton. I remember slamming my door so hard in frustration as the 4th went in, probably the worst performance since Watford. However I think the Newcastle game was the one I genuinely thought we were gone for the first time.

Sitting in 19th having not won for 6 games and only propped up by a few draws was truly awful.

Lampard remaining in charge after that Brighton game was the biggest scandal in a long, long line of scandals at this club in many a decade. It was over, there was absolutely no way back from that. Yeah yeah Bournemouth etc etc, but there was at least some rationale at the time for keeping him until after the World Cup break. The Brighton game was the line in the sand, point of no return moment. The two games wasted after that was unforgivable.

formerly manx toffee · December 10, 2023

West Ham to beat Fulham please

knowing your history · December 10, 2023

Victus said:
That 4-1 defeat to Brighton at home may have been the angriest I have ever been with Everton. I remember slamming my door so hard in frustration as the 4th went in, probably the worst performance since Watford. However I think the Newcastle game was the one I genuinely thought we were gone for the first time.

Sitting in 19th having not won for 6 games and only propped up by a few draws was truly awful.

Leeds-Leicester drawing 1-1 just two days before that was huge actually. You feel if one of those had won that night that would've given them the impetus to stay up, Leicester especially.

Lots of things ran for this club last season when internally it didn't really deserve it. Now this season loads of things are externally going against when finally on the pitch there is a proper team out there the fanbase can get behind for first time since probably 2016? 2020 things were coming together but no fans for most of that year so it was a virtual experience.

knowing your history · December 10, 2023

MikeH72 said:
Lampard remaining in charge after that Brighton game was the biggest scandal in a long, long line of scandals at this club in many a decade. It was over, there was absolutely no way back from that. Yeah yeah Bournemouth etc etc, but there was at least some rationale at the time for keeping him until after the World Cup break. The Brighton game was the line in the sand, point of no return moment. The two games wasted after that was unforgivable.

I'd have potted Lampard after Bournemouth personally. He did well coming in and keeping the club up in 21/22 considering the state he'd collected it in but it was broken with that trio of defeats to Bournemouth and Leicester the previous week.

Dyche with a world cup break and fitness bootcamp and would've finished mid 40s no problem. Losing to that Southampton team with Nathan Jones in charge, how was that even possible?! He lost every other prem match he took charge of!

MikeH72 · December 10, 2023

knowing your history said:
I'd have potted Lampard after Bournemouth personally. He did well coming in and keeping the club up in 21/22 considering the state he'd collected it in but it was broken with that trio of defeats to Bournemouth and Leicester the previous week.

Dyche with a world cup break and fitness bootcamp and would've finished mid 40s no problem. Losing to that Southampton team with Nathan Jones in charge, how was that even possible?! He lost every other prem match he took charge of!

Had that weird draw at City, but yeah, with hindsight he should’ve gone after Bournemouth. But post-Brighton game was the absolute 100% unarguable final straw, not one single person on the planet could make a case for him staying after that. And yet he did.