6 + 2 Point Deductions

[Tony’s Carp]

Considering they created an off-the-cuff punishment scale weeks before the hearing, I'm sure they will have no issue in creating an ad-hoc formula on the scale of any payouts.

Quite possible but if the exact same panel (already dubious) contradicts its own initial judgement in awarding compensation it’s absolute meat and drink to even our lawyers when the appeal comes around.

 

[GP_Monty]

Those are EFL rules mate not PL. They were not used... lots of confusion over this.

It literally says "As with the EFL guidelines..." and then explains the guidelines used. Assume the EFL guidelines have the same starting point but the additional point per £5m is where the two strategies bifurcate from one another.

 

[RD2910]

Those are EFL rules mate not PL. They were not used... lots of confusion over this.

Monty's referring to the Premier League's newly drawn up sanctions formula, which the commission also didn't use.

It certainly feels like it had an effect on the outcome though.

 

[Tipp blue]

Monty's referring to the Premier League's newly drawn up sanctions formula, which the commission also didn't use.

It certainly feels like it had an effect on the outcome though.

But ended up with the exact same points deduction as if they did use it..

 

[RD2910]

Procedurally this is a big laughable but this might be good for us. This panel stated that any advantage gained “cannot be quantified” so if they are consistent to their own ruling they can’t quantify what would have happened without the 19.5m overspend. I don’t see how the same panel could consistently award compensation on the basis of hypotheticals.

Just playing devil's advocate here, but did the commission definitely say the advantage 'cannot be quantified', or is that included in the report as part of the Premier League's suggested sanction heads?

 

[arch stanton]

Monty's referring to the Premier League's newly drawn up sanctions formula, which the commission also didn't use.

It certainly feels like it had an effect on the outcome though.

but those sanctions wouldn't apply if our mitigation were properly considered.

 

[Iana]

But ended up with the exact same points deduction as if they did use it..

Imagine the scenario if a wealthy club was at 135m instead of the PSR ceiling of 105m, it would be easier to go into administration than accept a 12 point deduction before a commission rules on their infraction.

It’s all bonkers!!

 

[Groucho]

You just know our legal team was along these lines

 

[Chegsy]

Burn it all to the ground and start again.

 

[LEONARD]

Watch the media, and especially the BBC (MOTD) to ignore-minimise our proposed banners-protests on Sunday.

They hate us ( as one of the 14 clubs that don't count)

 

[JohnRoss23]

Who's the woman on your avatar and how much does she sell her farts for? How fresh are they? Asking for a friend..
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[Dusty Rhodes]

lol

Can we fly a plane over Goodison with Moshiri hanging by his balls off the back of it

 

[Dixieslaces]

Our problem, or perhaps opportunity, with a can of worms being opened up is that it incentivises The PL to put a lid on further hearings and potential further hearings.

Not to mention claims and counter claims. It's just we were a very convenient option to make a statement with and an example of. A test case.

The club's statement on Friday was bang on in referencing this. Let's have proportionate punishment for all where warranted, and charges brought where necessary. If that doesn't occur, or is being put on the long-finger, then it's likely that by the time the appeal is heard, we'll still be the only club to have faced a hearing and receive a sanction.

I think we have a multitude of arguments to put forward, the severity of the sanction and failure to act in a coherent and transparent way against other offending clubs, being foremost amongst them.

I can't believe The PL wish this as the start of a period of continuous hearings and member clubs threatening legal action against each other. The logical end of that is it's eventual destruction.

If they wish to avoid that premise, and mark this as a line in the sand, then our punishment simply cannot stand as it is. It must either be drastically reduced or undone completely. Everton cannot be the scapegoat for a myriad of ills.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

Can we fly a plane over Goodison with Moshiri hanging by his balls off the back of it

Love the avatar...Big fan of Dusty me pal.

 

[roydo]

So, the morally, fair, upright PL have today voted to allow Newcastle to loan players from Saudi clubs, (owned by the same folk). I havnt got a huge beef with multi owned club arrangements, but the implications for this particular issue is huge.

But over spent by less than £20m over 3 years. See ya.