When Did The Rot Set In?

[Blue Heart]

Seems to me we've either had vision but no money, or money and no vision. Since about '71! (Granted with three or four v good years.)

 

[Eggs]

Very childish of you eggs, but I expect nothing less from the rubbish you post, as for posts about football, lets remember when you had Godfrey down as a top player....... also thanks for pointing out I support the clubs manager, saved me having to do it

….you will have seen from my post last night I accepted I got Godfrey wrong. There can be excuses made about playing out of position & serious injury but it’s important that when you get something wrong you hold your hands up. I do get things wrong, but it’s worst if you ignorantly stick to an opinion.

 

[Ralphie Boy]

When the club meekly accepted the European ban in 1985 for a crime that had absolutely nothing to do with us whatsoever.

Could you imagine Manchester City accepting a ban from next season's Champions League for something that did not involve them? There would be court cases left, right, and centre.

Instead, Carter and Co caved in and abandoned their duty to protect the club's interests.

Yeah, we won another league 2 years later, but the seeds were planted: not so much of decline, but of a culture that deferred to others, accepted "our lot", and, most importantly, "knew our place."

Never mind City can you imagine the shoite accepting a ban if our roles were reversed!

 

[4737carlin]

….you will have seen from my post last night I accepted I got Godfrey wrong. There can be excuses made about playing out of position & serious injury but it’s important that when you get something wrong you hold your hands up. I do get things wrong, but it’s worst if you ignorantly stick to an opinion.

Agree, good points

 

[sd_1992]

When Moyes stopped being able to find great players for no money...

The gradual replacement of players from his final squad with objectively rubbish players started the decline.

 

[Dancing Pat]

Pigman says hi

 

[stretford blue]

….it was a mad house before but I’m convinced the Benitez appointment turned the club rotten.

I’m actually of a view that Marcel Brands departure, much lauded on here was a key factor in sinking the ship. Brands role in the acquisition of players is open to criticism but I’m convinced he was a thoroughly decent man with the skill of a diplomat to keep the disparate parts of the club together. Popular with players and factions on the Board, he worked WITH various Managers until Benitez refused to even talk with him.

Benitez turned the madhouse into a sinking ship, I believe we’d be ok if he’d not been appointed.

The benitez appointment if we didn't know before that moshiri was dangerously clueless ,

 

[Ed_Winchester]

The new Park End showed the lack of foresight of the club at the time.
Chasing Hollywood managers meant there hasn’t been a coherent recruitment strategy for years and no 150-point PowerPoint from this season’s DoF is going to fix it

 

[Terrarian]

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Pigman says hi

I can't unsee that now ffs

 

[banno]

When Kenwright became involved with the Club in 1989. Look at the years previous to that and we see a Top Club. We used to have something to shout about then enter Bill. Took over in 1999 and Moyes shrewdness saved him from catastrophe but all was too clear that we had become fallen giants and became a run of the mill club..........all points to Bill initial involvement. When we deem mid-table as success then we know we are PL minnows

 

[DonegalEvertonian]

….it was a mad house before but I’m convinced the Benitez appointment turned the club rotten.

I’m actually of a view that Marcel Brands departure, much lauded on here was a key factor in sinking the ship. Brands role in the acquisition of players is open to criticism but I’m convinced he was a thoroughly decent man with the skill of a diplomat to keep the disparate parts of the club together. Popular with players and factions on the Board, he worked WITH various Managers until Benitez refused to even talk with him.

Benitez turned the madhouse into a sinking ship, I believe we’d be ok if he’d not been appointed.

Brands was trying to steer a cruise ship that was taking on water with a Captain (Chairman) who wanted more passengers of retirement age, a firstmate (Bill) who is delusional and thinks the ship is worldclass, Multiple Navs officers speaking different languages (Managers) , and a team of engineers who are overworked (Physios)

 

[kiss the crest]

When Kenwright walked through the door with the keys

 

[trueblue84]

Kenwright.

Under Peter Johnson we were poor, crap and still won an fa cup.

Kenwright has lauded us being plucky little Everton because he wants us to be his little play thing. He has put his own ego above the best interests of the club. He has lied to the fans and got into bed with shady characters, charlatans and crooks to protect his position. He has surrounded himself with weasels who refuse to challenge him and attack anyone who says anything negative or critical about him. He has no ambition, because with ambition comes expectation and with expectation comes critique. He's a parasite.

 

[Royal]

Heysel took us out of the big team picture, the prem coming in then changed how football worked and we simply never had the money to punch at that weight again.
In terms of the relegation rot, blue union killed the fanbase and Koeman killed the team. Benitez just sped up the process.

 

[allen]

This has been decades in the making.

Kenwright will forever be associated with this slow decline. It’s his legacy.