Tim Howard

[4737carlin]

Eh?

I must say I missed any posts where people said Mignolet was better than Timmy.

It might be about 15 pages back now, with 14 more pages of nonsense. Along the lines of clubs in the premiership who have better keepers than Howard

 

[MassBlue]

I don't think you can blame Howard for the goal. He has to choose a side and leave the wall to cover the other side. If you're into blame, blame the players in the wall who failed to react to the Sunderland players making space in it....

 

[EFCPaul]

Where would you expect him to be positioned?

Somewhere he'll be able to reach the other end of the goal when he dives.

 

[Kurt.]

You don't set up a wall and then stand behind it.... Anybody who's played football knows that.

 

[EFC78]

Thats how free kicks work, you beat the wall within a yard of the post and you score 90% of the time.

The wall was set up wrong on sunday but your wrong on where Howard should stand, Its the keepers job to cover far side of the goal and then do his upmost to stop anything that ends up on target at the near post.

What do you think is harder getting it up & down over the wall and on target at te near post or having a free shot at the far post with no keeper or wall to beat?

I think it's safe to say that we both agree that the wall was set up wrong. Surely Howard has to take some blame for that being the goalkeeper though? How has he allowed the wall to be stood in front of an area that isn't covering the goal?

Regarding where Howard should be stood, you say i'm wrong, but this is the third freekick I can think of this season where Howard has been beaten at the near post. The Wolfsburg freekick was unstoppable so I don't blame him for that, but the Gerrard one and particularly Larsson the other day weren't great freekicks.

It's easier to move over to the far post than the near one as well as the ball has to travel further and it would take a great freekick to beat him on that post. Not the fairly average ones by Larsson and Gerrard.

 

[joey_macmo]

I think it's safe to say that we both agree that the wall was set up wrong. Surely Howard has to take some blame for that being the goalkeeper though? How has he allowed the wall to be stood in front of an area that isn't covering the goal?

Regarding where Howard should be stood, you say i'm wrong, but this is the third freekick I can think of this season where Howard has been beaten at the near post. The Wolfsburg freekick was unstoppable so I don't blame him for that, but the Gerrard one and particularly Larsson the other day weren't great freekicks.

It's easier to move over to the far post than the near one as well as the ball has to travel further and it would take a great freekick to beat him on that post. Not the fairly average ones by Larsson and Gerrard.

thats how 95% of keepers set up mate, its just how it is. look at jaskelinen last season (its the perfect example), the 1st free kick he sets up like you would like howard to and baines doesnt have to beat anyone as he puts it in the top corner. Then he sets up in the conventional way and Baines now has to beat either the keeper on his side or get it up and over the wall.

every pundit that day says the 2nd free kick was better

 

[GwladysStreetHero]

Was far too right for the distance of the free kick could of been more central

 

[joey_macmo]

it wad clearly the set up of the wall that was the problem not his own positioning

 

[Dithering Dougie]

it wad clearly the set up of the wall that was the problem not his own positioning

Yet if Barkley had of done his job and not moved his head out of the way it wouldn't have cleared the wall anyway.

 

[bluegirl]

When he's on form he is top top class, he's just ridiculously unpredictable at the moment.

Reminding of Reina for the RS, don't know what he's going to do.

We do need to sign a good keeper either in January or the summer but there aren't too many about, David Marshall springs to mind as someone who would definitely come. Begovic another...

 

[Neiler]

seems to have gone through some kind of spiritual revolution or something, judging by the zaneyness of some of his recent interviews.

He's never been the most well balanced mentality wise for me.

 

[mrb85]

it wad clearly the set up of the wall that was the problem not his own positioning

If you believe his positioning was OK take a look at the video on p129 of the Sunderland v Everton thread. He was a good yard too far to his left.

 

[blue4eva77]

If you believe his positioning was OK take a look at the video on p129 of the Sunderland v Everton thread. He was a good yard too far to his left.

Do you think he cost us points mate?

 

[1966efc]

He's good enough for a mid table side.

 

[joey_macmo]

If you believe his positioning was OK take a look at the video on p129 of the Sunderland v Everton thread. He was a good yard too far to his left.

He wasn't he was in the correct position it was the wall that was the problem, both in the way it was set up (which is down to Howard) and in the way it fell apart!