Everton vs Zenit St Petersburg 5/12/07 - 19:45

[SuitsBlue]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]EVERTON ..........(Q) [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]0[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]0[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]6[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]5[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]9[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
Zenit St Petersburg[/FONT] .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]4[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]2[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]6[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]6[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]0[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]5[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
AZ[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif].........................3[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]0[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]4[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Nurnberg[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]...............3[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]4[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]5[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]-1[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]4[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Larissa[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]..................3[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]0[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]0[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]7[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]-4[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]0

played. won. drawn. lost. for. against. points.


[/FONT] you have to win by a big score to guarantee going through

or we have to draw or win at AZ.

i hope we can do it for us as well as you, but on tonights showing i couldnt count on us beating a troop of girl guides.

 

[FCN]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]EVERTON ..........(Q) [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]0[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]0[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]6[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]5[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]9[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
Zenit St Petersburg[/FONT] .[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]4[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]2[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]6[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]6[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]0[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]5[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
AZ[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif].........................3[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]0[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]4[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Nurnberg[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]...............3[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]4[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]5[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]-1[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]4[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Larissa[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]..................3[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]0[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]0[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]7[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]-4[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]0

played. won. drawn. lost. for. against. points.


[/FONT] you have to win by a big score to guarantee going through

or we have to draw or win at AZ.

i hope we can do it for us as well as you, but on tonights showing i couldnt count on us beating a troop of girl guides.

SuitsBlue, correct me if i´m wrong but if we win we got 7 points, right?

Zenit got 5 now and can´t do better, right?

3 Teams qualify for the next round, that´s a fact.


So if the worst comes to the worst and you loose in Alkmar (i hope not), we will be on position 3. If you draw in Alkmar and we win in Greece we keep postion 2.

 

[SuitsBlue]

if AZ win, then its a goal difference thing.

 

[Latch]

SuitsBlue, correct me if i´m wrong but if we win we got 7 points, right?

Zenit got 5 now and can´t do better, right?

3 Teams qualify for the next round, that´s a fact.


So if the worst comes to the worst and you loose in Alkmar (i hope not), we will be on position 3. If you draw in Alkmar and we win in Greece we keep postion 2.

If you beat Larissa you've qualified FCN, simple as that.

 

[SuitsBlue]

hows that work latch?

 

[Latch]

hows that work latch?

Three qualify Suits, if Nurnberg win they leapfrog Zenit into second, and even if AZ beat us all it means is that Nurnberg go down to third

 

[FCN]

If you beat Larissa you've qualified FCN, simple as that.

nice closing words.

I wish all Toffies a nice yuletide

 

[SuitsBlue]

got ya. fair enough.

 

[Latch]

Same to you FCN, have a good one mate.

ps. you need to concentrate on the Bundesliga now!

 

[atrottel]

Hey, FCN, congratulations again on the win last night and greetings to you and Taliban.

Danny, if you or anyone wants to go over to the FCN forum, there are a few German-based Everton supporters posting in the UEFA-und DFB Pokal section, and there are quite a few FCN fans that speak some English. There's a current thread in there "Heute abend haben wir Euch geholfen" (Tonight we helped you) started by martindobson, for example. And some of the FCN fans are talking about coming to Goodison in the slightly older thread "Hallon von Liverpool, England!"

I've been back and looked at the match, and I must admit I didn't see the disastrous performance of Jagielka that some are talking about either during the game or in the highlights. In fact, in one of the breaks from midfield referred to, it's Lescott that plays the man onside when the rest of the defence is holding the line.

We rode our luck and were unlucky ourselves with Carsley's sidefooted shot and Arteta's free kick. As someone mentioned before, we know ourselves how hard 10 men can make it for the opposition. Credit to Zenit and their fans as well for the way they performed.

 

[micknick]

Over the moon we have qualified at top spot. Thought we did enough and deservedly won it. Anyone else get reminded of a certain goal Mr Carsley scored in the past when he hit the post last night?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I must say it is nice to see that table. When the draw was made I thought being in a group with good sides from Russia, Holland and Germany would be tricky but we've dealt with it all very well thus far.

 

[jacobite]

Made up that we won last night and maybe rest a few of the lads for AZ.
Was just me but I thought Jags looks like hes very short on confidence, he looked terrified when he had the ball.Most of the papers are giving Cahill mom, but for me Lescott again was head and shoulders above the rest, commanding, positive and stepped forward with the ball with style deffo future captain.
Also Cahill looked like he was carring a knock or hes not fully fit but fair play to him he kept making the runs even when ball wasnt running for him.
One thing I will say the treatment of James McFadden was bang out of order, yes I know hes infuriating at times and some of his antics last night suggest he wants away, but to **** off an Everton player like that is just sad.
Well done to the lads against a useful side, it looks like we`re finally getting use to playing in europe.

 

[Sim]

Very much a game of two halves I thought. We played well in the first half, but in the 2nd it was us who looked like the team with 10 men. Long balls and being overlapped, what was that all about? Surely with the extra man a passing game would have been more suited? Still, the first half we were so dominant that we fully deserved the win.

Arteta, Cahill, Johnson, McFadden, Baines all had poor games by their standards (well not mcfadden, poor is his standard), they all looked a little off form for some reason.

Pienaar, Neville, Carsley Howard played to their usual industrious standard.

But the pick of the bunch for me was Jagielka, what a bloody awful player is proving to be so far in an Everton shirt. He's a much better player than his performances for us suggest so I dont know what the problem is, but it must be something behind the scenes. So many times last night he gave away possession, was caugh napping, out of position or just put poor balls in. You can see it on his face that he's just not enjoying his football at the moment and he's really really struggling. I hope that whatever is affecting his confidence can be sorted.

Our two best players were Lescott who was solid as usual and the brief glimpse of Anichebe again. Such a difference from mcfadden and AJ. Whenever the ball went to him it stuck and he held the defender off well. He had no clear chances himself, but looked good I thought.

 

[Robert Jarvis]

My take on the game was that as a striking partnership, McF and AJ does not work. Really wondering if McF should be moved on and also have to admit thinking along those lines for AJ.

As for Jags, has he ever put in a good showing anytime he has played? Is it perhaps becoming evident that this was a poor buy as he appears to be hopelessly out of his depth.

Thanks to Timmy we won and are now onto the next level, so when is the draw? Does anyone know?