Yesterdays Linesman Judgement

[n8ly]

First of all, I would like to let everyone know that I am from Canada and our main sport is Hockey. I state this because, in hockey, when there is an uncertain goal or miscalled play, there is a review session where there are off ice officials that look at replays to determine whether a puck has crossed a goal line or not. Ultimately, it allows for the correct decision of whether a goal is allowed or disallowed. I explain this because it is the natural process to resort to in hockey or even american football and baseball now if there is a questionable/uncertain goal/disallowed goal, touchdown, or home run during play. Subsequently, I have become very accustomed to this tactic and resource, as it is valuable in times of poor refereeing.

However, my family is Brittish (Evertonians) and understand that a lot of people don't believe that goal reviews belong in football. We feel that it would ruin the flow of the game.

With all that being said... With what happened to us yesterday against newcastle, I can't help but complain why there isn't goal review from a camera perspective. It would have surely given awarded us Anichebes goal and maybe Fallainis (some think its onside, some don't)

So I am just curious to ask, how do you all feel about this topic now that we have recently been a victim of poor referee judgement?

 

[gheesom]

Firstly...hello, secondly it was completely onside.
It's difficult with the Anichebe one to decide on whether or not to stop play....easier with the Fellaini one as there is a natural stop in play, takes seconds to review and give.

Goal line technology is essential due to the money involved, but it's deciding how and when to stop play in a situation like last night. You want there to be a flow to the game, but also a fairness beyond human judgement. I've often wondered how easy/difficult it would be to have a small chip inside the balls which activate a buzzer on the refs/linesmans arm if the ball goes over the line, could be used for throwins/corners etc

 

[pfim]

You wait until the next stoppage in play to review the play in question, just like in ice hockey.

 

[ianos]

But what if that is the other team going down to the other end and sticking the ball in the net?

 

[carlos_the_jackal]

You wait until the next stoppage in play to review the play in question, just like in ice hockey.

What if the ball stays in play for five minutes? Ten? What if someone commits a yellow or red card offence within that period?

 

[gheesom]

But what if that is the other team going down to the other end and sticking the ball in the net?

This and a sending off is exactly what I was thinking...hence I like the idea of the chip in the ball, can't be that hard to have a couple of sensors linked to the goal line? we could even have a big flashing light about the goal so everyone knows

 

[pfim]

But what if that is the other team going down to the other end and sticking the ball in the net?

The play goes back to the goal in question. The second goal is not awarded.

Admittedly, clock management is very different between the two sports. But this isn't a huge barrier to break.

 

[blueblue]

In the ninety minutes last night how many controversial decisions were there which needed technology to give the correct result...probably the two goal decisions.It is relatively rare that technology is needed it wouldn't really interfere with the flow of the game.

 

[carlos_the_jackal]

Who decides what warrants a review though? You'll get sides keen on running down the clock calling for all sorts.

 

[TheBlueGibbon]

Who decides what warrants a review though? You'll get sides keen on running down the clock calling for all sorts.

The captain or the manager.
You have a limited number of calls per team per match, same as in cricket or tennis. 3 appeals per game should be enough, and only related to decisions for goals or red cards.

 

[pfim]

I don't see how you can use it in offsides calls as there are just too many. Plus, the whistle normally sounds before anything meaningful happens, all you'd be able to do is award an indirect kick to the aggrieved team.

The ball going over the line, it doesn't happen very often and these are game-deciding decisions. It's very much necessary, unless they are to put an official on each end line.

 

[gheesom]

if it's like American football, you have 3 calls, if it's right you keep it, if it's not you lose 1.

Most are pretty obvious.....Fellaini last night, would have been looked at without question.
so would Anichebe's one, just not sure how that one would work?

It would be pretty easy, also be able to look at diving for pens Ashley Young wouldn't have a career!!!

 

[Royal]

What if the ball stays in play for five minutes? Ten? What if someone commits a yellow or red card offence within that period?

Then they still get the yellow or red.
And it won't stay in for that long, if you think you've just scored a goal you'll do everything in your power to hoof it out of play.

The captain or the manager.
You have a limited number of calls per team per match, same as in cricket or tennis. 3 appeals per game should be enough, and only related to decisions for goals or red cards.

And penalties, surely?

 

[TheBlueGibbon]

Then they still get the yellow or red.
And it won't stay in for that long, if you think you've just scored a goal you'll do everything in your power to hoof it out of play.


And penalties, surely?

I was including that in goals in my head.

 

[Nordecke]

Replays would have to be on a goal or no goal basis.. Offside's, etc, would ruin the flow.

However; if managers are given say 1 "Challenge" per half on an offside call than that might not be so noticeable.

Welcome btw