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1. Continually play Rodwell on the right wing when he is useless there. The only thing playing him on the right wing achieves is giving the other teams left back an easy game? Rodwell is a good holding midfielder not a winger.

2. Continue to play Arteta in the centre, and even worse, make him sit deep while Fellaini moves in to more advanced positions? Arteta is still a great player, the manager is employing him in the wrong role. Moyes complains about having no wingers yet decides to play one of the Premierships most talented wingers in a holding role, whilst playing Rodwell there instead. Has he lost the plot?

3. Continue to play Cahill when he stifles our attacking threat to other teams. He never supports Beckford - Saha enough when we attack, through pushing further up, so Beckford ends up playing as a lone striker, which isn't how he should be played. Beckford is a talented player imo and if he was played with another striker would score alot more goals.

I hope I'm wrong but I worry that even with the breakthrough of Barkley, that we're still going to struggle to score that many goals because of Moyes's insistance on playing a lone striker, when we have no one who is suited to it.

If Moyes doesn't believe we have enough strength on the wings why isn't he playing 2 up front? If you aren't expecting great service in to the middle, from out wide, surely it makes more sense to have the extra striker upfront to help the team score more.

We struggled to score many goals last season due to our tactics, rather than players imo. Our defence is solid, we just don't score enough.

Most of our games we dominate posession, we just don't score as we leave our lone striker too isolated.

I think Moyes knows the vast majority of the fans want him to play 2 upfront but he's becoming a victim of his own success and his ego and stubborness are stopping him from correcting mistakes.

Here's the team I would pick (when available) ...

Howard

Coleman Jags Distin Baines

Fellaini

Arteta Barkley Geuye

Saha Beckford

Coleman likes to attack but I don't think he's creative enough to be an out and out winger but I think he'd be a great asset as an attacking full back as he has better distribution than Hibbert and would help us get more quality crosses in to the box, overlapping Arteta.

Fellaini is one of the best holding midfielders in the Premiership and has great technique as well as strenth and height.

Barkley normally plays in the centre and has great vision, passing and technique and enjoys shooting, so I'd play him in the centre and give him a free role to attack the other teams from deep. Playing in the middle he would be able to link up with Arteta more as well.

Geuye is relatively unproven but we've got nothing to lose from giving him a run in the first team. It seems like he has pace and an eye for goal. If he fails to make an impact we can move Barkley back on the left wing and play Osman in the middle.

Saha is a classy player and is good on the ball. He's also unselfish and I believe in partnership with Beckford they'd be a handfull for any team.
 

your deluded...
1. Continually play Rodwell on the right wing when he is useless there. The only thing playing him on the right wing achieves is giving the other teams left back an easy game? Rodwell is a good holding midfielder not a winger.

2. Continue to play Arteta in the centre, and even worse, make him sit deep while Fellaini moves in to more advanced positions? Arteta is still a great player, the manager is employing him in the wrong role. Moyes complains about having no wingers yet decides to play one of the Premierships most talented wingers in a holding role, whilst playing Rodwell there instead. Has he lost the plot?

3. Continue to play Cahill when he stifles our attacking threat to other teams. He never supports Beckford - Saha enough when we attack, through pushing further up, so Beckford ends up playing as a lone striker, which isn't how he should be played. Beckford is a talented player imo and if he was played with another striker would score alot more goals.

I hope I'm wrong but I worry that even with the breakthrough of Barkley, that we're still going to struggle to score that many goals because of Moyes's insistance on playing a lone striker, when we have no one who is suited to it.

If Moyes doesn't believe we have enough strength on the wings why isn't he playing 2 up front? If you aren't expecting great service in to the middle, from out wide, surely it makes more sense to have the extra striker upfront to help the team score more.

We struggled to score many goals last season due to our tactics, rather than players imo. Our defence is solid, we just don't score enough.

Most of our games we dominate posession, we just don't score as we leave our lone striker too isolated.

I think Moyes knows the vast majority of the fans want him to play 2 upfront but he's becoming a victim of his own success and his ego and stubborness are stopping him from correcting mistakes.

Here's the team I would pick (when available) ...

Howard

Coleman Jags Distin Baines

Fellaini

Arteta Barkley Geuye

Saha Beckford

Coleman likes to attack but I don't think he's creative enough to be an out and out winger but I think he'd be a great asset as an attacking full back as he has better distribution than Hibbert and would help us get more quality crosses in to the box, overlapping Arteta.

Fellaini is one of the best holding midfielders in the Premiership and has great technique as well as strenth and height.

Barkley normally plays in the centre and has great vision, passing and technique and enjoys shooting, so I'd play him in the centre and give him a free role to attack the other teams from deep. Playing in the middle he would be able to link up with Arteta more as well.

Geuye is relatively unproven but we've got nothing to lose from giving him a run in the first team. It seems like he has pace and an eye for goal. If he fails to make an impact we can move Barkley back on the left wing and play Osman in the middle.

Saha is a classy player and is good on the ball. He's also unselfish and I believe in partnership with Beckford they'd be a handfull for any team.
 

1. Continually play Rodwell on the right wing when he is useless there. The only thing playing him on the right wing achieves is giving the other teams left back an easy game? Rodwell is a good holding midfielder not a winger.

1. Bily is banned therefore we're a capable-wide player short

2. Gueye has a broken toe and so we're a wide player short

3. Pienaar's not been replaced

4. Coleman is injured
 
1. Bily is banned therefore we're a capable-wide player short

2. Gueye has a broken toe and so we're a wide player short

3. Pienaar's not been replaced

Arteta owns Rodwell on the wing and we have loads of central midfielders who can do better than what Arteta has been in the middle for the last season. Put Arteta on the right wing, with Barkley on the left and play any one of Neville, Heittinga, Rodwell, Osman etc in the middle.

Rodwell is a central midfielder, not a winger. He's rubbish there. I don't see any justification, even with the injuries for using him as a winger. I don't recall Rodwell playing well on the wing ever.
 

Arteta owns Rodwell on the wing and we have loads of central midfielders who can do better than what Arteta has been in the middle for the last season. Put Arteta on the right wing, with Barkley on the left and play any one of Neville, Heittinga, Rodwell, Osman etc in the middle.

Rodwell is a central midfielder, not a winger. He's rubbish there. I don't see any justification, even with the injuries for using him as a winger. I don't recall Rodwell playing well on the wing ever.

If I have a gripe with Moyes its that he sometimes is more concerned with the personnel rather than positions and appears to try to stick round pegs in square holes. Youre correct that Rodwell is not a wide player, just like Beckford is unsuited to a lone striker role. Both will suffer with a drop in confidence and become disillusioned.
 
If I have a gripe with Moyes its that he sometimes is more concerned with the personnel rather than positions and appears to try to stick round pegs in square holes. Youre correct that Rodwell is not a wide player, just like Beckford is unsuited to a lone striker role. Both will suffer with a drop in confidence and become disillusioned.

Yep, I agree. It really frustrates me sometimes. Moyes doesn't seem to be learning from any of his mistakes anymore as he's repeating them from last season. :(
 
Yep, I agree. It really frustrates me sometimes. Moyes doesn't seem to be learning from any of his mistakes anymore as he's repeating them from last season. :(

Its frustrating I agree. It seems sometimes he just tries to crowbar players in to suit his system or the inclusion of others. He's still the man for me though.
 
Its frustrating I agree. It seems sometimes he just tries to crowbar players in to suit his system or the inclusion of others. He's still the man for me though.

True. He's a really good manager, I just get annoyed cos I think he could do better. I believe we would have an outside shot at the top 4 if he played more positive tactics and didn't continue to stick with his fav players all the time.
 
like someone mentioned we are top heavy in the middle so id prefer arteta and barkley on the wings (until gueye coleman and bily are back) with osman fellaini heitinga and rodwell fighting it out for cm.

barkley looks like he can pretty much play anywhere . arteta looks like he is starting to get an understanding with baines.

to not play them with felli and 1 more in the middle isnt playing to our strengths imo.
 

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