What do we require from our manager / football team?

mkrudden · October 22, 2019

I just want an Everton template. We had one under Moyes certainly and the projected one for Martinez was my absolute favourite.

Having this constant changing ethos is why we are always in the periphery.

Bluebonic · October 22, 2019

E N T E R T A I N M E N T!!!!!!

Osamabindiesel · October 22, 2019

We are getting to the point where we have to be competing for European footy yeah? I don’t just mean Europa. The top 6 is an absolute diarrhea stain at the moment with all the teams in transition.

Tottenham are a mess with Poch’s future in question. Arsenal’s success 100 percent rests on Aubemezett. Manchester United are hilariously bad. Chelsea have been forced by the ban to play the talent they have developed (and they might have lucked out).

We need to at least be among the conversation. This isn’t the nearly impenetrable top 4-6 of the past. We have spent too much money to be so far behind.

Nymzee · October 22, 2019

Pashun

davids · October 22, 2019

Hate to think about that lot over the park but,a team that competes from the first minute until the last.It'll make defeats at least half palatable.

JobForTheMoyes · October 22, 2019

mkrudden said:
Quite a few musings re: Jose Mourinho (spelling?) within the Marco Silva thread which offer some interesting debates regarding what we require from our manager.

The honourable member (said in Bercow's voice) @mikeh72 wants a Klopp-like manager. Horse Head over the park had a very good CV albeit in a league where the challengers are a shallow pool. He also got Dortmund to a European cup final though which is a fantastic achievement.

He's gone to that shower and inherited a sub-par squad and made them better. Much better. The one thing that can't be argued though about that gang of [insert expletive here] is the club is used to winning. Doesn't matter if it's a league cup here or there, an FA Cup or a European Cup. Christ, they even won a trophy with Dalglish a few years ago didn't they?

The point i'm making is, how would he do inheriting a side of actual losers. Sounds harsh but who have we got who actually has a pedigree for winning? Even after spending a chunk of our majority shareholder's cash.

Gomes?
Digne?
Bernard?

It's a handful at best.

We don't have a mentality within the squad to be successful. We need someone, i'd argue, to bring that mentality.

Onto my good friend @Saint Domingo with his discussion of Jose. Won things literally everywhere he's been. Even won competitions with a Utd team that is as bad as I can remember in all the years watching footy. Isn't that what we need? He's even won major trophies with Porto!

To me, it's a no brainer. Yes it'll end horrendously when he calls out the lack of length (???) in Pickford's arms or calls us a small club at a press conference. But he'd surely give us the best chance of actually winning? Of getting used to winning? If our players can't be inspired by Jose, they should just pack up now.

Others on here may say we need someone to bring good football (Howe). Someone who gets us (Ferguson / Arteta). Pragmatism and steel (Moyes)?

The major point is perhaps, as a fanbase overall we don't know what we want. And that inconsistency is mirrored on the pitch, in the recruitment department...it's riddled throughout the club.

For what it's worth, I just want an identity. To me it should be one based on aggressiveness without the ball and fluidity on it. It's why I like Silva. But results like Newcastle away last season and Sheffield Utd this season make me question whether he can bring consistency to a club which still, a few years now after Moshiri came, feels like it's still in chaos.

Thoughts?

I thought Kenny Dalglish actually did a good job second time round. He put down foundations that benefitted Rodgers and, to a lesser extent, Klopp. Let’s face it, the only reason they almost won the league under Rodgers was because of Suarez, and that was a Dalglish signing.