Were the 70s worse than the 90s ?

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Think the Murray piece was pretty much that, migrants, rather than proper transfers.

Who was the first Brit to transfer abroad? Cant recall the name, but didnt a United player go to Juventus and is still revered there. Duncan Edwards? Or did he die in Munich?

Deffo a high profile one.


He did.

John Charles is the man you are talking about
 

Having watched us in both decades(God I feel my age nowlol),I'd say it was the other way around,the 90's apart from the cup win and the 18 months which followed when we appeared to be progressing were truly dreadful,early 90's Beardsley apart we were terrible to watch home and away,ditto late 90's,for the 1970's although I can't remember the title win in 1970,for whatever reason we just didn't progress,the likes of Belfitt/Harper/Bernie the bolt we suffered(It's a wonder a genuine legend like Terry hung around with these deadbeats as teammateslol)then came Dobbo/Latch/Kingy/Dave Thomas and for three/four years we played some really decent stuff and I thought deserved some silverware,so me?I'd say 1970's over 1990's:)


And other big names du jour came.....Rioch, Todd, Asa.
 
I remember in the glory years of the 80s, commentators and journalists would make references to 'the dark days of the 70s'. Compared to the 90s, they were blindingly bright.

Goodison was still considered one of the best stadia in the country. We had standing in the game. played some boss football and we had some heroes that we never felt some 'bigger' club was going to tempt away.

As others have mentioned, Ardiles and Villa at Spurs, Muhren and Thyssen at Ipswich were big successes as imports in the 70s. Tarantini at Birmingham and Alex Sabella at Sheffield Utd (apparently they almost signed Maradona but ended up with him) less so. That Polish guy Deyna went to Man City well past his best and didn't make much of an impact either.
 
I can still vividly picture in my mind's eye being on the Stretford End at Old Trafford and watching Terry Carrycot let that Villa cross in the last seconds go and the Villa player almost walking on to the end of it about 3 yeards out to score the winner in the second reply of the Mickey Mouse Cup...

And being on the Kippax the same year when Clive (pass me my RS shirt) Thomas disallowed Brian Hamilton's potential winner in the FA Cup Semi Final... On a heavy pitch Duncan McKenzie ripped the RS one good-style that day.
 
I can still vividly picture in my mind's eye being on the Stretford End at Old Trafford and watching Terry Carrycot let that Villa cross in the last seconds go and the Villa player almost walking on to the end of it about 3 yeards out to score the winner in the second reply of the Mickey Mouse Cup...

And being on the Kippax the same year when Clive (pass me my RS shirt) Thomas disallowed Brian Hamilton's potential winner in the FA Cup Semi Final... On a heavy pitch Duncan McKenzie ripped the RS one good-style that day.
Without doubt a goal no RS players appealed,plus theres a video of that squeaky rat Hughes saying Thomas admitted he made a mistake,fine margins in the 70s cost us
 

Early 90s were average, then things deteriorated. Royle's side were alehouse battlers, really, but they at least competed and actually won something. Plus it felt good to have a man of Joe's class in charge - His departure really put us on the skids. HK III is the worst Everton side I've seen in my lifetime, should have been relegated but stayed up on goal difference on the last day of the season.
It didn't get any better under Walter. Looked initially that it might as he signed some decent players - Materazzi, Dacourt, Ted Collins; plus Bakayoko who was not decent but at least it showed some intent. Couldn't get them playing, Kevin Campbell kept us up, players disappeared, until we were left with the embarrassment of Paul Gascoigne and David Ginola turning out in the Royal Blue Jersey and us nailed on for relegation (again). Smith was awful but the club was on its back in those days with Johnson in charge - I don't think anyone could have gotten a tune out of that squad under the circumstances.

I think a lot of people who don't like Moyes have blanked the 90s from their minds, as a sort of coping mechanism. They think he took over from prime HK and immediately set about lowering expectations. Reality is he kept us up, then built us up, from an absolute nadir in our History.
 
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Felt like we beat the RS a fair amount of games in the 90s, almost like we had the upper hand? Know absolute nothing about the 70s.
 
That decade began with the selling of one of my boyhood heroes to Arsenal! That was the beginning of the end. The rest of that time is best forgotten, especially since it was my teenage years, with school, hormones and a dull future led by Heath and then Wilson. At least the music was great, and is still considered the best we ever produced.


Bally was the first iconic hero in my football supporting life. One of the saddest moments as a youngster was finding this out after school one day - it broke my heart.

I still remember the great 22 match unbeaten run in 1977/8 which came to a shuddering halt at GP on St Stephen's Day with a 2-6 defeat by the Mancs.

We finished up 3rd behind the RS and the Champions Forest.

Latch, Dave Thomas, Lyons, King, Dobson - we had some really good players then and as someone posted earlier we could have had another League win, an FA Cup and a League Cup had some things gone slightly differently for us.
 

.....we won the league in the 70s.

We won the league in 1969-70, then promptly finished 14th, 15th and 17th the next three seasons. We did have a 3rd place and two 4th placed finishes in the 70s, which is was better than anything we did in the 1990s - though, as others have said, Liverpool were dominant in the 70s so that hurt.
 
I remember in the glory years of the 80s, commentators and journalists would make references to 'the dark days of the 70s'. Compared to the 90s, they were blindingly bright.

Goodison was still considered one of the best stadia in the country. We had standing in the game. played some boss football and we had some heroes that we never felt some 'bigger' club was going to tempt away.

As others have mentioned, Ardiles and Villa at Spurs, Muhren and Thyssen at Ipswich were big successes as imports in the 70s. Tarantini at Birmingham and Alex Sabella at Sheffield Utd (apparently they almost signed Maradona but ended up with him) less so. That Polish guy Deyna went to Man City well past his best and didn't make much of an impact either.
You know when you were a kid, and you had a kick around in the street and used to say "and such and such is on the ball, they can't stop him...and he scoressssss"? Well I used to use Alex Sabella. No idea what he looked like, or if he was any good, but he just had the coolest name.
 
Having watched us in both decades(God I feel my age nowlol),I'd say it was the other way around,the 90's apart from the cup win and the 18 months which followed when we appeared to be progressing were truly dreadful,early 90's Beardsley apart we were terrible to watch home and away,ditto late 90's,for the 1970's although I can't remember the title win in 1970,for whatever reason we just didn't progress,the likes of Belfitt/Harper/Bernie the bolt we suffered(It's a wonder a genuine legend like Terry hung around with these deadbeats as teammateslol)then came Dobbo/Latch/Kingy/Dave Thomas and for three/four years we played some really decent stuff and I thought deserved some silverware,so me?I'd say 1970's over 1990's:)
We also had Tony Thomas playing for us in the 90s , I grew up playing against him , he really was sh1t , I then realised that we were dragging the bottom, when Tony Thomas is playing for us .:(
 
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