paulbefc
Player Valuation: £60m
Got in from the game a few hours ago (God, that was shiite) and came to inspect the damage on here. Wasn't surprised it was in meltdown.
Despite the title, I've got to say that Moyes pissed me off today. My main gripes were, firstly, not making changes quickly enough. I'd personally like him to have taken Cahill off at half time for Rodwell. He is ineffective at best these days and Osman, although similarly sh*te, is better behind the striker and discourages hoofball. The Gueye change was 5 or ten minutes too late too although I doubt he'd have made any real difference either way. Also, I'm seeing my arse at his not playing Barkley. We need change and positivity to lift morale and Ross could bring that. Not to mention he's one of the few players in our squad today that could offer a bit of quality. I'm sure Moyes had his reasons but I'm fairly certain I'd disagree with them (I'm not going to call him a "ginger, dour faced cnut" and call for him to be sacked for it though. Just saying) but Moyes got a lot of his decisions wrong today. FACT. Also, I must mention the hoofball has to stop.
However, these shouts for him to be sacked are starting to really piss me off (no offence meant). The arguments are getting a little played out these days really but I'm pissed off and would like to rant a bit and take the socially unacceptable route and stick up for the manager.
Firstly, I don't know where people get the idea that a new manager, whoever he would be, would make any difference whatsoever to our current predicament. If we'd played 4-4-2 today we'd still have lost because the players just didn't deliver. Also, our strike partnership would have had to be Vellios and Straq. A partnership which, in my head at least, would have had the Stoke centre backs high-fiving in the changing room celebrating a clean sheet before the game even kicked off. Every player today, bar Bily, in that first XI was playing in his favoured position and none of them really delivered a good performance. That's not acceptable, and unless Moyes told them to go out there and misplace passes and hit the first defender from set pieces, it's mostly the players' fault today, in my opinion. As I said above, Moyes is also partly to blame, yes, but they're lacking confidence and have been for a while. They're out of form. Cahill's a perfect example.
I'll say this again, money is at the heart of our problem. If we'd had the money even Sunderland have had since 09 I believe this squad would look completely different. Our problem is that over time our quality players are leaving because we can't afford to pay them or we need their transfer fees and we are replacing them, most recently with players in the championship/league one price range. Again, Moyes isn't blameless here. The Lescott money could have been used a hell of a lot better but one thing you can't question Moyes on is signings. If we'd had Arteta today would Osman/Bily have started? We miss him more than some realise. His passing ability and his ability to find space and show himself for the ball would have cut down hoofball enormously. However, he was sold because he wanted to leave and because of necessity. Now players are being played out of necessity in his place. The likes of Vellios, Straq, Hibbert, Osman and Coleman to an extent wouldn't have seen the light of day in our team had we had the money to strengthen a few years ago. Amazingly, Osman was benched a few years ago and now he's an important first team player, because we've not had the money to bring in the next good player, or he left (Pienaar).
I often hear evertonians say about the money situation: "adapt to it then, Moyes". This is the most infuriating shout of the lot. Having no money isn't something you can "adapt" to in this league, with numbers this high being thrown around. Go tell the homeless person to adapt his way into a house that he's paid for without any actual income. If signings like Coleman for £60k and Vellios for £200k are anything to go by (both started today) then we should call Moyes the master of fecking adaptation ffs.
Another issue that's come up this week thanks to the amazing thing that is hindsight is the form of Yakubu. I was pissed off when he was sold for that low an offer but he wanted to go, end of. Nothing anyone can really do, we needed money and were stuck with a player who didn't want to be here on the last day of the transfer window. Let's remember while on the subject of Yakubu that a huge proportion of us, myself included, would have taken any offer combined with selling Yobo if it meant we could get the "quality winger" Charles N'Zogbia to the club. Shows how much we know. Little annoying as well that despite all the coverage Yak's price has got, everyone forgets that we got £4m for a player who can't score in the championship! If you want to go by current form then that's the best deal since Johnson and Lescott ffs. Just wanted to point that out.
Moyes has his hands tied, (to coin the most popular football pundit phrase about our situation) but it's true I believe and mark my words if we do ever get investment and Moyes is still in charge, he'll have many eating their words. I'm not trying to rile anyone up as I know some really want him out. Oh and I'm also not Matt Damon
Despite the title, I've got to say that Moyes pissed me off today. My main gripes were, firstly, not making changes quickly enough. I'd personally like him to have taken Cahill off at half time for Rodwell. He is ineffective at best these days and Osman, although similarly sh*te, is better behind the striker and discourages hoofball. The Gueye change was 5 or ten minutes too late too although I doubt he'd have made any real difference either way. Also, I'm seeing my arse at his not playing Barkley. We need change and positivity to lift morale and Ross could bring that. Not to mention he's one of the few players in our squad today that could offer a bit of quality. I'm sure Moyes had his reasons but I'm fairly certain I'd disagree with them (I'm not going to call him a "ginger, dour faced cnut" and call for him to be sacked for it though. Just saying) but Moyes got a lot of his decisions wrong today. FACT. Also, I must mention the hoofball has to stop.
However, these shouts for him to be sacked are starting to really piss me off (no offence meant). The arguments are getting a little played out these days really but I'm pissed off and would like to rant a bit and take the socially unacceptable route and stick up for the manager.
Firstly, I don't know where people get the idea that a new manager, whoever he would be, would make any difference whatsoever to our current predicament. If we'd played 4-4-2 today we'd still have lost because the players just didn't deliver. Also, our strike partnership would have had to be Vellios and Straq. A partnership which, in my head at least, would have had the Stoke centre backs high-fiving in the changing room celebrating a clean sheet before the game even kicked off. Every player today, bar Bily, in that first XI was playing in his favoured position and none of them really delivered a good performance. That's not acceptable, and unless Moyes told them to go out there and misplace passes and hit the first defender from set pieces, it's mostly the players' fault today, in my opinion. As I said above, Moyes is also partly to blame, yes, but they're lacking confidence and have been for a while. They're out of form. Cahill's a perfect example.
I'll say this again, money is at the heart of our problem. If we'd had the money even Sunderland have had since 09 I believe this squad would look completely different. Our problem is that over time our quality players are leaving because we can't afford to pay them or we need their transfer fees and we are replacing them, most recently with players in the championship/league one price range. Again, Moyes isn't blameless here. The Lescott money could have been used a hell of a lot better but one thing you can't question Moyes on is signings. If we'd had Arteta today would Osman/Bily have started? We miss him more than some realise. His passing ability and his ability to find space and show himself for the ball would have cut down hoofball enormously. However, he was sold because he wanted to leave and because of necessity. Now players are being played out of necessity in his place. The likes of Vellios, Straq, Hibbert, Osman and Coleman to an extent wouldn't have seen the light of day in our team had we had the money to strengthen a few years ago. Amazingly, Osman was benched a few years ago and now he's an important first team player, because we've not had the money to bring in the next good player, or he left (Pienaar).
I often hear evertonians say about the money situation: "adapt to it then, Moyes". This is the most infuriating shout of the lot. Having no money isn't something you can "adapt" to in this league, with numbers this high being thrown around. Go tell the homeless person to adapt his way into a house that he's paid for without any actual income. If signings like Coleman for £60k and Vellios for £200k are anything to go by (both started today) then we should call Moyes the master of fecking adaptation ffs.
Another issue that's come up this week thanks to the amazing thing that is hindsight is the form of Yakubu. I was pissed off when he was sold for that low an offer but he wanted to go, end of. Nothing anyone can really do, we needed money and were stuck with a player who didn't want to be here on the last day of the transfer window. Let's remember while on the subject of Yakubu that a huge proportion of us, myself included, would have taken any offer combined with selling Yobo if it meant we could get the "quality winger" Charles N'Zogbia to the club. Shows how much we know. Little annoying as well that despite all the coverage Yak's price has got, everyone forgets that we got £4m for a player who can't score in the championship! If you want to go by current form then that's the best deal since Johnson and Lescott ffs. Just wanted to point that out.
Moyes has his hands tied, (to coin the most popular football pundit phrase about our situation) but it's true I believe and mark my words if we do ever get investment and Moyes is still in charge, he'll have many eating their words. I'm not trying to rile anyone up as I know some really want him out. Oh and I'm also not Matt Damon
