Watershed tonight.

Dario Terracotta · March 19, 2015

Has to be one way or another in the Martinez era,either he learns the lessons tonight and changes his ways for the good,or he carries on regardless to the end of the season and loses his position,Robles has to come in,Coleman needs dropping,Hibbert or Browning to come in,Alcaraz to be shown the door,Jags to be relieved of the captaincy,Barry dropped(at least he's out sunday),Besic in to work with McCarthy,Atsu showed enough tonight to be given an extended run,preferably play two wide men,two up front either play Naismith as a striker or Kone,starting at QPR on sunday,if he doesn't make sweeping changes sunday I fear the axe will fall sooner than the end of the season as he is fast losing the fans.

daz4matty · March 19, 2015

Dario Terracotta said:
Has to be one way or another in the Martinez era,either he learns the lessons tonight and changes his ways for the good,or he carries on regardless to the end of the season and loses his position,Robles has to come in,Coleman needs dropping,Hibbert or Browning to come in,Alcaraz to be shown the door,Jags to be relieved of the captaincy,Barry dropped(at least he's out sunday),Besic in to work with McCarthy,Atsu showed enough tonight to be given an extended run,preferably play two wide men,two up front either play Naismith as a striker or Kone,starting at QPR on sunday,if he doesn't make sweeping changes sunday I fear the axe will fall sooner than the end of the season as he is fast losing the fans.

He has made a rod for his own back mate.
Even at half time he changed nothing,he is just lost.

By god I'm blue · March 19, 2015

Please say you are not serious about Hibbert? What is the point in that? Hardly the future is it? So Browning probably the better option.

As for the rest, yes I agree.

He will make changes Sunday, Gibson and Osman will start. Barkley needs to play as he looked a bit more like and Naismith needs leaving out, Lennon will obviously play too.

Dario Terracotta · March 19, 2015

daz4matty said:
He has made a rod for his own back mate.
Even at half time he changed nothing,he is just lost.

Yep,he lost me then mate,couldn't believe that.

Stutheblue · March 19, 2015

I think that if we have back to back league defeats thay could be it for Roberto. Just can't keep getting beat. Its not on.

potato · March 19, 2015

knocked us out of the europa league v dynamo kiev - last 16 - conceded 5 goals in the away leg!!!

knocked us out of the league cup v swansea in the third round - we lost 3-0!!!

knocked out of the fa cup v west ham - third round replay on penalties - we almost lost the first leg at home but scraped a replay thanks to a lukaku last minute equaliser

on top of that we have no chance of finishing in the top 10 this year and will be lucky if we manage to get 15th

DISGRACEFUL

to think we got knocked out of the cups by dynamo kiev, swansea and west ham

an UTTER UTTER DISGRACE

summerisle · March 19, 2015

How many watersheds does it take ?

Dario Terracotta · March 19, 2015

By god I'm blue said:
Please say you are not serious about Hibbert? What is the point in that? Hardly the future is it? So Browning probably the better option.

As for the rest, yes I agree.

He will make changes Sunday, Gibson and Osman will start. Barkley needs to play as he looked a bit more like and Naismith needs leaving out, Lennon will obviously play too.

Hibbert was excellent earlier in the season,far better than Seamus has been,if we had a few more points then yeah,I'd say Browning but if he's fit I'd start Hibbert.

maccavennie · March 19, 2015

Dario Terracotta said:
Has to be one way or another in the Martinez era,either he learns the lessons tonight and changes his ways for the good,or he carries on regardless to the end of the season and loses his position,Robles has to come in,Coleman needs dropping,Hibbert or Browning to come in,Alcaraz to be shown the door,Jags to be relieved of the captaincy,Barry dropped(at least he's out sunday),Besic in to work with McCarthy,Atsu showed enough tonight to be given an extended run,preferably play two wide men,two up front either play Naismith as a striker or Kone,starting at QPR on sunday,if he doesn't make sweeping changes sunday I fear the axe will fall sooner than the end of the season as he is fast losing the fans.

Spot on but aint gonna happen Dario. Just like you mentioned on Sunday, Coleman doesn't even look like a professional footballer atm he's been dire, actually playing like an ale house Sunday league player. Barry, we got the absolute best of him last season. Not his fault his legs have gone but its certainly Martinez's fault for continually playing him. I have said enough about Howard to last me a lifetime. Baines was awful again tonight. Alcaraz I want to puke when I mention his name. Barkley and Naismith in the same side again. Ross was actually decent going forward tonight but I just don't think that was the right game to play someone who wouldn't track back as much. I just think Martinez hasn't got a clue what he's doing and neither do the players tbh. 2-1 up against a side AND as bad a keeper as they had and to concede 5. Not having it mate, not having it all. SHAMEFUL.

Dario Terracotta · March 19, 2015

summerisle said:
How many watersheds does it take ?

This was a humiliation though tonight,shades of Bucharest.

kithnou · March 19, 2015

watershed moment for Roberto is the players he gets into the club, and the ones he lets go, in the Summer for me.

LinekersLegs · March 19, 2015

Dario Terracotta said:
Has to be one way or another in the Martinez era,either he learns the lessons tonight and changes his ways for the good,or he carries on regardless to the end of the season and loses his position,Robles has to come in,Coleman needs dropping,Hibbert or Browning to come in,Alcaraz to be shown the door,Jags to be relieved of the captaincy,Barry dropped(at least he's out sunday),Besic in to work with McCarthy,Atsu showed enough tonight to be given an extended run,preferably play two wide men,two up front either play Naismith as a striker or Kone,starting at QPR on sunday,if he doesn't make sweeping changes sunday I fear the axe will fall sooner than the end of the season as he is fast losing the fans.

wtf? He has been excellent recently and even tonight was one of our better players.

Given I doubt you want to play either Alcaraz or Distin alongside Stones, how on earth do you expect him to react to being stripped of the captaincy? Great motivation that.

PhilM · March 19, 2015

kithnou said:
watershed moment for Roberto is the players he gets into the club, and the ones he lets go, in the Summer for me.

Then it may be too late. People maintain that Martinez players will provide the end results that Martinez requires.

What if they do not? Then what? If we lose the likes of Coleman, Baines and even to an extent Jagielka then we may lose any credibility.